General Election June 8th

[Len Rum]

Any idea how they can reduce the debt without reducing the deficit.

And can you honestly say you believe the debt would be lower under 1 and a bit Labour governments. Honest answer please Len

Obviously eliminate the deficit, move into surplus and reduce the debt.
George's plan was to achieve this by 2015 when the national debt would have maxed at 1.3 tn and decreased.
Unfortunately by cutting too much too fast he crashed the economy in 2012, tax revenues reduced and he had to let borrowing continue at levels higher than intended. This ultimately led to continuing deficit and increasing national debt.
Alistair Darling ( remember him) had a better plan which was not to cut borrowing as drastically which would have given the economy a much softer and smoother transition to current growth levels ( without nearly killing the patient and then having to pump him full of drugs). With this more sensible economic management the deficit could have been eliminated by now with debt at say 1.5 tn and reducing.

 

[malg]

Come on, let's vote the guy in.......

 

[Corky]

Supporting a football team requires loyalty and blind faith - you don't need to think you just support your team.

Voting in a general election requires that you engage your brain and do what's right for the country.

Two very different things.

Anyone who votes for a party because their granddad always voted for them is mentally retarded.

Manchester is a deprived northern City, one that the tories have left to rot, and many like it.

The pathfinder funding was pulled as soon as the Condems were voted it, as it was to help Manchester/Salford, Rochdale/Oldham etc. City represent Manchester, and the Tories would let Manchester rot in piss.

Tories passed the Care Act but withdraw funding every year, in will be zero by 2020, and we have to make do using business rates, which they are also cutting, not good for Manchester at all is it?

 

[hilts]

Lets hope so, would be a shame if a club from strong working class roots from gorton, ardwick, moss side, and presently bradford was supported by mainly right wingers, Manchester has centuries of proud history of it's people uniting and fighting for an equal and fair society, not a tory style one.

Haha quality

 

[Ban-jani]

Telegraph reporting labour to be killed by possibly 150.

Corbyn will surely have to go if it turns out to be correct.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Isn't that just not voting?

No I want to vote but I just don't see anyone deserving of a vote. If I vote labour it will be tacit approval of the steady slide to the left that started when the wrong Miliband got in. Labour are a shambles and they deserve to lose. That said the whole brexit mess is a farce and the tories are wholly responsible for it so again they deserve to lose. Shame the lib dems are so insipid!

 

[hilts]

The weird thing with Blair is that if you forget Iraq he was actually a great prime minister and it shows. Even though I disagree with him, at least he has a clear position that people can vote for. That ability to make a decision and ride with it is why he won elections and was elected twice, he chose a route and people agreed with him. Because he was also centrist he had views that weren't at either extreme so he was a great option unless your views were at those fringes.

With Corbyn people still do not know a single thing, every week he just protests at the Tory position but his own position remains unannounced. Why doesn't he just say he is for or against free movement and what he plans to get out of negotiations. His idea so far is to walk in and say to the EU what do you want before he knows what WE want. I get the impression he doesn't care, he just wants to impose marxist rule on the country, who cares about governing..

So fair play to Blair, I don't like what he did with Iraq nor do I agree with his position to overturn the referendum but at least he has a position that I can choose to agree or disagree with.... Corbyn just pontificates about what I should believe and that is what makes him totally unelectable, it is great that he will be gone in a couple of months time.

If Blair had sent Gordon Brown to Iraq and left our armed services at home he would have a fine legacy. The Tories dodged a bullet there as they would have done exactly the same as Blair.

 

[KenTheLandlord]

The Conservative party is the party is the least bad option when you come to vote.

Tories are most likely to let people get on with their lives, start businesses, create jobs and prosperity. That's what allows us to fund all the social projects we value and offer real help to deserving cases.

Labour (when they are electable) fuck the economy. The Conservatives fix it by making difficult unpopular decisions. We throw out the Tories and the cycle repeats.

Even more hilarious.
Seriously though, three tory press people have quit in the last week.
You should send in a CV with stuff like that, they are looking for those types of fairy stories.

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

Big wave to the long since departed members from the other place who popped on to vote

*waves*

Either that or my bit on Keynes was a turning point.

Most people on the "other place" are banned on here. Even if they weren't, why would they bother coming on here to vote in some meaningless poll.

Get over yourself, this place isn't that important in most people's lives

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

maggette.