General Election June 8th

[mat]

Jurnolist tells it as it is.

The trips to a Turkey for the PM were to get tips on controlling the media.

 

[aguero93:20]

No you are wrong on this and I am not sure why you are getting so exercised

Articles I have read recently were talking about the impacts of brexit on the Irish economy and how they could be so severe that Ireland will need to review whether it might be in their interest to leave the EU.

Certainly the fact that Ireland have just moved from being beneficiaries to contributors was raised in these articles.

Don't shoot the messenger - just a simple statement of fact and as I say I don't know why you have to get so exercised

You implied that Ireland no longer had any interest in being in the EU as we were now a contributor, why don't you try representing the facts next time? We were always going to discuss the impact of Brexit seeing as we're your closest neighbours and a major trading partner, as well as the only country that shares a land border with the UK.

Our contribution to the EU was never a part of that discussion whether at parliamentary level, in the media or as part of any discussion on the matter I've witnessed, it wasn't even considered reasonably news worthy in it's own right over here, of the 6 papers I'd monitor only the Independent ran an article and it merited 5 seconds on the news. On top of that I've yet to talk to anyone, whether a client, a neighbour, a family member or a friend that has any resentment over contributing back to an organisation that has put huge investment into this country and brought us from being a third world agri economy to what we are today. Not one and they're from all across the political and social spectrum, as well as all 4 corners of the country.
So I'll thank you for not misrepresenting a political landscape you obviously know fuck all about and aren't in touch with in an attempt to back up your own points on here.

 

[mat]

I came across this and loved it and I thought I'd share with all the Tory lickspittles....

In May's world of extremist right wing myopia, moral bankruptcy, cognitive dissonance, stereotypes, hack clichés and intellectual mediocrity; her mendacity replaces truth and is made real - bankers are maligned victims not responsible for the "crash", and like the tory party are really benign philanthropists above self interest and duplicity, who are working for the benefit of the country. Corbyn's labour party wants to steal their "magic money tree," - which the tories stole from the people(along with the public assets) of this country, to give to their corporate pimps anyway.

Corbyn's Labour party is "left wing?!!" Who are responsible for the global economic recession, a stalking horse for Marxism, dupes of the unions and middle-class Islington lefties. Public sector workers are a fifth column with gold plated pensions who receive billions in bonuses, unlike bankers and corporate whores, who live in penury because they are overburdened with regulations, taxation, er!! When they choose to pay it. The NHS wants to kill you and private health care wants to cure you - money is a mere incidental, as long as you have it. The (castrated)unions are conspiratorial red masons who control the labour party and wish to bring about the destruction of our capitalist utopia. Modelling herself on Goebbels and the Mother of Christ, May is a much maligned compassionate mother of the nation blasphemed against by the left.

Exploitation by the tories, finance, business, landlords, is freedom(socialism for the rich): a more equitable society, well resourced universal NHS, welfare, education, public services, jobs with a living wage/employment rights and decent conditions is slavery.

Facts and statistics are flexible, 'Doublethink' is de rigueur, 'Newspeak' the official language with Murdoch the Daily Mail its loudest most vociferous voices and now the Guardian. '1984' is seen as an operating manual by the tories rather than a critique. The disabled, poor, sick, unemployed, the low paid are unproductive parasites, surplus to requirements in a world divided between "scroungers and strivers." Western Europe, the EU and particularly France(the perfidious Johnny foreigner) is a hotbed of indolent communists who are jealous of our neo liberal paradise.

The tories are nothing more than verminous, parasitic, sociopathic trash. Reductive whores of Social Darwinist, voodoo economics, who wish to reduce every aspect of humanity to mere units of production, they despise ordinary people and see their only value, as an entry in a profit and loss account, to be exploited by the human garbage that this sub-strata of humanity are, and the workhouse capitalism they serve.

There exists for right wing tory dupes a neo-liberal dystopian holy grail; a kind of Somalia with fish and chips, vindaloo, obesity and better drainage; ruled by neo liberal tory warlords, Blairite kapos, Ayn Rand inspired gangsters, funded by London stock exchange parasites, with UKIP as the Sturm Abteilung (SA). Remember the fascist war cry as they went into battle against Republican troops during the Spanish Civil War? "Death to the intellect! Long live death!". How appropriate?!! Maybe May could work that into a revised tory version of 'Land of Hope and Glory.'

That is brilliant.

 

[mat]

Jurnolist tells it as it is.

The trips to a Turkey for the PM were to get tips on controlling the media.

Daughter of Tory MP bites.

She was allowed a question by the PM....

 

[SWP's back]

Daughter of Tory MP bites.

She was allowed a question by the PM....

Bites or replies to an untruth?

 

[mcfc1632]

You implied that Ireland no longer had any interest in being in the EU as we were now a contributor, why don't you try representing the facts next time? We were always going to discuss the impact of Brexit seeing as we're your closest neighbours and a major trading partner, as well as the only country that shares a land border with the UK.

Our contribution to the EU was never a part of that discussion whether at parliamentary level, in the media or as part of any discussion on the matter I've witnessed, it wasn't even considered reasonably news worthy in it's own right over here, of the 6 papers I'd monitor only the Independent ran an article and it merited 5 seconds on the news. On top of that I've yet to talk to anyone, whether a client, a neighbour, a family member or a friend that has any resentment over contributing back to an organisation that has put huge investment into this country and brought us from being a third world agri economy to what we are today. Not one and they're from all across the political and social spectrum, as well as all 4 corners of the country.
So I'll thank you for not misrepresenting a political landscape you obviously know fuck all about and aren't in touch with in an attempt to back up your own points on here.

I must have hit a nerve there - you are twisting desperately in the wind........

I did not realise that what I posted could cause such angst

TBH - Did not read your post past the bit of : "You implied that Ireland no longer had any interest in being in the EU as we were now a contributor, why don't you try representing the facts next time?...."

you were about to embark on some rant clearly.

All I have done is state facts - not implied anything – just stated facts.

You quoted a part of my post which is where you seem to have gotten selectively offended

I said:

“Ireland have just become a contributor after 40 years of being a beneficiary - now the gravy has finished there is talk of leaving the EU”

The first part: “Ireland have just become a contributor after 40 years” can only be seen to be other than fact if you are being crazily pedantic – it is slightly more than 40 years and as for the part:

“...now the gravy has finished there is talk of leaving the EU” is also clearly fact – I have read several articles in recent weeks in which Irish politicians or senior commentators are raising that question – so yeah, just simple facts

Don’t know what the rest of your post said but as I suspect it was nothing along the lines of “....having thought it through you were indeed right and I got the wrong end of the stick and went off on one...” in which case I will leave you to get on with it.

If on this last point I am wrong and you were saying something like that – my apologies for mis-judging your capability for objectiveness.

 

[mat]

Bites or replies to an untruth?

 

[SWP's back]

Not sure what your point is

 

[mat]

Not sure what your point is

Just think it's a fascinating thread. As he's got a few bites of other jurnos and the usual twatterati trying to catch her out.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Not sure what your point is

That she needs to go back to the laboratoire?