General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%

  • Total voters
    656
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okey doke thanks for your answer.

my opinion is that when you level out the tax generated by immigrants with the drain they put on the NHS, there is a tiny benefit/drain on the system (depending on whose figures you believe!!) in comparison to the money involved in bureaucracy, management tiers and bungled IT/tech upgrades (partly due to bad tendering processes).

Yeah, I see your point. There are some pretty fine arguments between a lot of policies I suppose.

Oh, don't get me started on bungled IT systems I've seen first hand that shit go down in individual local councils irrespective of what party has control, nevermind central government.
But thats the public sector for you per se!
 
It would be utter madness if they held a contested leadership contest if they are still in power. If they could agree on a single candidate and simply annoint them they might but I don't think they have anyone who has that level of support
Fair point be who would carry out the process? Would they have to fly the pope in or could a local parish priest conduct the ceremony?
 
I run a small business and we are hanging in by a thread .I absolutely dread Diane Abbott being in charge of anything and think we will be royally stuffed if Jezzer and his mates win. Simple as that for me .
 
I know that I have already replied to this post - but just revisiting it to request your help with my confidence in the people that post on Bluemoon - a horrible thought came to mind...........

You were not really seeking to draw some favourable comparison between Nelson Mandela and Jeremy Corbyn were you?

Please just put my mind at rest and confirm that you were not suggesting that the actions of Jeremy Corbyn were akin to those of Nelson Mandela - please do.

I merely asked a question regarding two different politicians who have somewhat checkered histories.

Your mind seems to run off at all possible tangents based on your responses to my question.

Offering any opinion on here is completely futile. Everyone has their own political viewpoint and they aren't going to be changed on here. Everyone has their own stats/links/graphs to "validate" their viewpoint.

At the end of the day, we'll all vote the way our conscience and life experience has taught us.

Some will be happy on Friday, others not. That's politics. That's life.
 
I really like jezza, but Abbott is a total liability. Torys dangerous for the country. Jezza needed to tell Abbott to go home and lock all the doors last week
 
£8 an hour works out at £16k+ a year, we're a small company in a competitive field and costs are crucial. Not sure what you'd expect a minimum hours pay to be.

We had to freeze all wages this year as we've invested £1million in new equipment and raising the minimum pay won't help it pay for itself as quickly as we need it to.



No matter when it comes in it'll have an affect on SME's. It'll cause redundancies and division in the work place.

It will also mean businesses looking more seriously at automation, robotics, how they can get efficiencies and remove headcount to reduce costs. It will make this business cases that bit easier to make so jobs will be lost. Has there been any real detailed study by Labour on the impact that a £10minimum wage would have on businesses or is it just a good sound bite number to entice traditional labour voters back into the fold?
 
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I run a small business and we are hanging in by a thread .I absolutely dread Diane Abbott being in charge of anything and think we will be royally stuffed if Jezzer and his mates win. Simple as that for me .

We're not going to be "royally stuffed" no matter who gets in.
 
Or it could be absolutely on the money. Depends on your political persuasion.

Not in this case it doesn't.

Dialogue consists of talking & listening to all sides of the argument. Show me one example of Corbyn talking to Unionist terrorists, sitting on a platform with them or inviting them to the House of Commons.


I've taken a look.

So he met with Ian Paisley. Good on him. Now I'll admit that Mr Paisley was a bit abrasive and pretty confrontational, but I'm fairly certain he was never a member of a terrorist organisation. Neither was Gary McMichael. David Ervine was, I'll give you that. However by the time he met Corbyn he had renounced violence and was following a career as politician with the PUP and was a leading figure in the peace process.

So, you've not been able to provide me with even one exampe of Corbyn talking to Unionist terrorists, sitting on a platform with them or inviting them to the House of Commons.

I'm still looking therefore for examples of Corbyn talking with Unionist terrorists.
 
Are any of his "friends" in Hamas Unionists?

Theyre not his friends, jezza cannot stand cowardly murderers but by calling them his mates he knows terrorists groups around the world will drop their weapons and hug.

After decades trying to solve complex issues if only less substantial minds had only thought to be nice in a social context.

A minutes silence here
Help for a jailed murderer there

God bless him
 
Well they wouldn't would they - so long as things work out on Thursday then they will be happy to see him cement his role as Labour Party leader
Have you spectacularly missed the point? Or have I? You asked about comparing Corbyn with Mandela. I assume you admire Mandela but he was leader of a terrorist organisation (at least that's what Thatcher said in resisting sanctions against apartheid). Short selective memory or just more anti-Corbyn hypocrisy? Tory students wore "hang Mandela" t-shirts
 
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