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General Wrestling Thread
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Why Always Ste
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When this "wwe network" launches in Feb, does this mean it will go off Sky? And everything will be on WWE.com?
Or is it just for Americans only?
Or is it just for Americans only?
Damocles said:It's because the preconceptions of the preconceptions of wrestling are wrong
Nobody will go into a Breaking Bad thread and say "hahahaha, Walt doesn't really exist!!! You stupid bastards"
Yet people presume that about wrestling fans.
It's a TV program that is both entertaining within the "story" like a soap opera yet has some incredible athleticism, and I feel the most personal type of storytelling possible.
The wrestlers try to tell a mini story in every match. They control the live crowd and the pacing to produce something that is really excellent.
A good example, people say that they enjoyed Stone Cold Steve Austin. Why was this? I think it's because Austin was an anti-authority figure who told his boss to go fuck himself constantly and he was a ruthless fucker.
In the 50s people would have found this deplorable yet in that era it was "cool". wrestling taps into society unlike any other form of storytelling. People lived vicariously through Stone Cold and wanted to see him on the show.
Stone Cold existed because the WWF listened to the crowd reactions, saw that a "bad guy" was getting "good guy" reactions so shifted their storylines to suit it.
I love the sport, I really do. Nothing comes close in having the finger on the pulse of society and in long term storytelling with a genuine athleticism to it.
I enjoy watching people do incredible athletic acts. I enjoy watching people who interact with a live crowd (like a stand up). I enjoy a good storytelling source based over several episodes (like a drama series). I also enjoy hearing the behind the scenes gossip as it puts into perspective the physical sacrifice that is made for the entertainment of the fans.
I can't understand why people cannot like this but can like Eastenders.
Yes but then you wrestling geeks all talk about it 1. as if its real. 2. as if you all know the inner workings of everything. 3. you complain and moan about it so I don't know why you watch it.
Never seen anyone discuss Breaking Bad etc like the way you wrestling fans discuss every minute detail of wrestling. If a storyline went in a way someone didn't like they wouldn't woman about the way you wrestlefans talk about it.
Wrestling has been shit for over decade, don't know why so many watch it even though they complain its so shit.
I've also noticed wrestling fans are always very touchy and quick to defend it and talk about it in quite pretentious terms, possibly because they know its all a bit silly.
jimbopm
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argyle said:Damocles said:It's because the preconceptions of the preconceptions of wrestling are wrong
Nobody will go into a Breaking Bad thread and say "hahahaha, Walt doesn't really exist!!! You stupid bastards"
Yet people presume that about wrestling fans.
It's a TV program that is both entertaining within the "story" like a soap opera yet has some incredible athleticism, and I feel the most personal type of storytelling possible.
The wrestlers try to tell a mini story in every match. They control the live crowd and the pacing to produce something that is really excellent.
A good example, people say that they enjoyed Stone Cold Steve Austin. Why was this? I think it's because Austin was an anti-authority figure who told his boss to go fuck himself constantly and he was a ruthless fucker.
In the 50s people would have found this deplorable yet in that era it was "cool". wrestling taps into society unlike any other form of storytelling. People lived vicariously through Stone Cold and wanted to see him on the show.
Stone Cold existed because the WWF listened to the crowd reactions, saw that a "bad guy" was getting "good guy" reactions so shifted their storylines to suit it.
I love the sport, I really do. Nothing comes close in having the finger on the pulse of society and in long term storytelling with a genuine athleticism to it.
I enjoy watching people do incredible athletic acts. I enjoy watching people who interact with a live crowd (like a stand up). I enjoy a good storytelling source based over several episodes (like a drama series). I also enjoy hearing the behind the scenes gossip as it puts into perspective the physical sacrifice that is made for the entertainment of the fans.
I can't understand why people cannot like this but can like Eastenders.
Yes but then you wrestling geeks all talk about it 1. as if its real. 2. as if you all know the inner workings of everything. 3. you complain and moan about it so I don't know why you watch it.
Never seen anyone discuss Breaking Bad etc like the way you wrestling fans discuss every minute detail of wrestling. If a storyline went in a way someone didn't like they wouldn't woman about the way you wrestlefans talk about it.
Wrestling has been shit for over decade, don't know why so many watch it even though they complain its so shit.
I've also noticed wrestling fans are always very touchy and quick to defend it and talk about it in quite pretentious terms, possibly because they know its all a bit silly.
Wrestling is a funny subject to a lot of people. The whole real/fake thing is a non starter. Professional wrestling hurts and takes it's toll on the body, there is no argument. WWE Wrestler's work a schedule akin to a Rock Band on a world tour and they do this for roughly 320 days a year. They suffer injuries, concussions and other problems from being on the road this intensively. Unfortunately there are too many stories of wrestlers who have died as a result of the demons of pro-wrestling and the injuries mounting up. So it's very disrespectful to even bring the word 'fake' into the debate. Yes outcomes are pre-determined, but the action that takes place to reach these outcomes is as real as it gets. You try and throw yourself down on a floor 20 times a day for 300 days a year and see how it feels.
Fans of wrestling love to critique the product because they know it's predetermined and it allows for great debate. You can't watch a boxing match and say that you would have made 'X beat Y so that X could face Z' because it's an organic sport. In wrestling things get set up and either you think that was the right way to go or not. Have you never watched a film and thought that the ending was shit and would have done it differently? Or thought that a character had too much focus on them and you thought the actor with half the lines as the lead deserved more of a role? This is no different to the discussions that wrestling fans have with each other.
The fans of wrestling are a funny breed. I'm a proud wrestling fan and I love talking about it, but it's just something that is ridiculed far too often to be ever be considered acceptable. You wouldn't think twice of asking someone you barely knew if they had seen the footy at the weekend, or if they were watching Breaking Bad, but too mention whether you watched the Royal Rumble would be considered social suicide. Hopefully this thread can change attitudes a little.
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Who does everyone think ran Stone Cold Steve Austin down? I think it was the rock.
njmcfc1894
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For the old school guys, here's list of some of the deaths over the years
Andre The Giant 46 January 27, 1993 Heart Attack
Kerry Von Erich 33 February 18, 1993 Suicide
Dino Bravo 44 March 11, 1993 Drive-By Shooting
Joey Marella 30 July 4, 1994 Auto Accident
Boris Malenko 61 September 1, 1994 Cancer
Art Barr 28 November 23, 1994 Drug-Related Cause
Jerry Blackwell 45 January 22, 1995 Pneumonia
Eddie Gilbert 33 February 18, 1995 Heart Attack
Big John Studd 46 March 20, 1995 Hodgkin’s Disease
Ray Stevens 60 May 3, 1996 Heart Attack
Dick Murdoch 49 June 15, 1996 Heart Attack
Herb Abrams 41 July 23, 1996 Drug Overdose
Sapphire 61 September 10, 1996 Heart Attack
Dr. Jerry Graham 58 January 24, 1997 Stroke
Bulldog Bob Brown 58 February 6, 1997 Heart Attack
Stan Stasiak 60 June 12, 1997 Heart Failure
Jeep Swenson 40 August 19, 1997 Heart Attack
Fritz Von Erich 68 September 10, 1997 Cancer
Dick “Bulldog” Brower 63 September 16, 1997 Diabetes
Brian Pillman 35 October 5, 1997 Arteriosclerotic Heart Disease
Bobo Brazil 74 January 20, 1998 Heart Problems
Louie Spiccoli 27 February 15, 1998 Carisopridol Overdose
Junkyard Dog 45 June 1, 1998 Auto Accident
Terry Garvin 60 August 17, 1998 Cancer
Giant Haystacks 55 November 30, 1998 Stomach Cancer
Brady Boone 40 December 15, 1998 Auto Accident
Sam Mushnick 93 December 31, 1998 Internal Bleeding
Shohei “Baba” Giant 61 January 31, 1999 Bowel Cancer
The Renegade 23 February 23, 1999 Suicide
Kurt Von Hess 65 March 13, 1999 Heart Attack
Rick Rude 41 April 20, 1999 Heart Attack
Owen Hart 33 May 23, 1999 Accidental Fall
Gorilla Monsoon 62 October 6, 1999 Heart Illness
Hiro Matsuda 62 November 27, 1999 Cancer
Bobby Duncum Jr. 34 January 24, 2000 Drug Overdose
Gordon Solie 71 July 27, 2000 Cancer
Toru Tanaka 70 August 22, 2000 Natural Causes
“Yokozuna” Rodney Anoia 34 October 22, 2000 Heart Attack
Johnny Valentine 73 April 24, 2001 Natural Causes
Terry Gordy 40 July 16, 2001 Heart Attack
Rhonda Singh (Bertha Faye) 40 July 27, 2001 Unknown
Dennis Coraluzzo 48 July 29, 2001 Stroke
Chris Adams 46 October 7, 2001 Shot to Death
Helen Hart 77 November 4, 2001 Organ Failure
Russ Haas 27 December 15, 2001 Heart Failure
Swede Hanson 68 February 20, 2002 Alzheimer’s Disease
Wahoo McDaniel 63 April 18, 2002 Stroke
Lou Thesz 86 April 28, 2002 Natural Causes
Randy “Pee Wee” Anderson 41 May 7, 2002 Natural Causes
Alex “Big Dick Dudley” Rizzo 34 May 16, 2002 Unknown
“British Bulldog” Davey Boy Smith 39 May 17, 2002 Heart Attack
Ted Petty (Rocco Rock) 49 September 21, 2002 Heart Attack
“Mr. Wrestling” Tim Woods ?? November 30, 2002 Heart Attack
“The Original Sheik” Ed Farahat ?? January 18, 2003 Natural Causes
Curt Hennig 44 February 10, 2003 Drug Overdose
Miss Elizabeth (Elizabeth Heulette) 42 May 1, 2003 Drug Overdose
“Classie” Freddie Blassie 85 June 2, 2003 Natural Causes
Anthony “Pitbull #2″ Durante 36 September 26, 2003 Drug Overdose
Stu Hart 88 October 16, 2003 Pneumonia
Road Warrior Hawk (Mike Hegstrand) 46 October 19, 2003 Heart Attack
Mike “Crash Holly” Lockwood 32 November 6, 2003 Asphyxiation
Moondog Spot (Larry Lathman) 51 November 29, 2003 Heart Attack
Jack Tunney (Former WWE President) 68 January 24, 2004 Natural Causes
Hercules Hernandez 45 March 6. 2004 Heart Attack
Pepper Gomez 77 May 6, 2004 Kidney Failure
Pat “Bomber” Roach 67 July 17, 2004 Cancer
Jim Barnett (Promoter) 80 September 17, 2004 Cancer and Pneumonia
Ray “Big Boss Man” Traylor 42 September 22, 2004 Heart Attack
“Pistol” Pez Whatley 54 January 18, 2005 Heart Failure
Chris Candido 33 April 28, 2005 Blood Clot after Surgery
Shinya Hashimoto 40 July 11, 2005 Brain Anresum
Lord Alfred Hayes 77 July 21, 2005 Stroke
Ed “Sailor” White (Moondog King) 56 August 25, 2005 Unknown
The Crusher (Reggie Lisowski) 79 October 22, 2005 Natural Causes
Eddie Guerrero 38 November 13, 2005 Heart Failure
Mike “Johnny Grunge” Durham 39 February 16, 2006
Victor Quinones (Owner of IWA Puerto Rico) 46 April 2, 2006 Natural Causes
John “Earthquake” Tenta 42 June 7, 2006 Bladder Cancer
Bob Orton Sr. 76 July 14, 2006 Heart Attack
Antonio Peña (Mexican Promoter) 57 October 6, 2006 Heart Attack
Jumping Joey Maggs 37 October 15, 2006 Unknown
Scott “Bam Bam” Bigelow 45 January 19, 2007 Drug Overdose
Mike Awesome 42 February 17, 2007 Suicide
Bad News (Brown) Allen Coage 63 March 6, 2007 Heart Attack
Ernie “The Cat” Ladd 68 March 10, 2007 Cancer
Arnold Skaaland 82 March 13, 2007 Natural Causes
Sandy Barr 69 June 2, 2007 Heart Attack
Sensational Sherri Martel 49 June 15, 2007 Unknown
Shane “Biff Wellington” Bower 42 June 23, 2007 Heart Attack
Nancy Daus (Woman from WCW) 42 June 23, 2007 Strangulation
Chris Benoit 40 June 25, 2007 Suicide
Brian “Crush” Adams (43)–August 13, 2007–Natural Causes
The Missing Link (Dewey Robertson) (68)–August 16, 2007–Died from cancer
Fabulous Moolah (Lillian Ellison) (84)–November 3, 2007–Natural Causes
Andrew Martin (Test) - 1975 - 2009 - Overdose of drugs
Captain Lou Albano - 1933 - 2009 - Prolonged Illness
Umaga - 4 December, 2009 - Heart Attack
Lance Cade - 2010 - Heart Failure
Bastion Booger - 2010 - heart attack
Giant Gonzalez - 2010 - Diabetes
Chris Kanyon - 2010 - Suicide
Jack Brisco - 2010 - Heart Attack
Ludvig Borga - 2010 - Heart Attack
Macho Man Randy Savaage, 2011 - Accident
Andre The Giant 46 January 27, 1993 Heart Attack
Kerry Von Erich 33 February 18, 1993 Suicide
Dino Bravo 44 March 11, 1993 Drive-By Shooting
Joey Marella 30 July 4, 1994 Auto Accident
Boris Malenko 61 September 1, 1994 Cancer
Art Barr 28 November 23, 1994 Drug-Related Cause
Jerry Blackwell 45 January 22, 1995 Pneumonia
Eddie Gilbert 33 February 18, 1995 Heart Attack
Big John Studd 46 March 20, 1995 Hodgkin’s Disease
Ray Stevens 60 May 3, 1996 Heart Attack
Dick Murdoch 49 June 15, 1996 Heart Attack
Herb Abrams 41 July 23, 1996 Drug Overdose
Sapphire 61 September 10, 1996 Heart Attack
Dr. Jerry Graham 58 January 24, 1997 Stroke
Bulldog Bob Brown 58 February 6, 1997 Heart Attack
Stan Stasiak 60 June 12, 1997 Heart Failure
Jeep Swenson 40 August 19, 1997 Heart Attack
Fritz Von Erich 68 September 10, 1997 Cancer
Dick “Bulldog” Brower 63 September 16, 1997 Diabetes
Brian Pillman 35 October 5, 1997 Arteriosclerotic Heart Disease
Bobo Brazil 74 January 20, 1998 Heart Problems
Louie Spiccoli 27 February 15, 1998 Carisopridol Overdose
Junkyard Dog 45 June 1, 1998 Auto Accident
Terry Garvin 60 August 17, 1998 Cancer
Giant Haystacks 55 November 30, 1998 Stomach Cancer
Brady Boone 40 December 15, 1998 Auto Accident
Sam Mushnick 93 December 31, 1998 Internal Bleeding
Shohei “Baba” Giant 61 January 31, 1999 Bowel Cancer
The Renegade 23 February 23, 1999 Suicide
Kurt Von Hess 65 March 13, 1999 Heart Attack
Rick Rude 41 April 20, 1999 Heart Attack
Owen Hart 33 May 23, 1999 Accidental Fall
Gorilla Monsoon 62 October 6, 1999 Heart Illness
Hiro Matsuda 62 November 27, 1999 Cancer
Bobby Duncum Jr. 34 January 24, 2000 Drug Overdose
Gordon Solie 71 July 27, 2000 Cancer
Toru Tanaka 70 August 22, 2000 Natural Causes
“Yokozuna” Rodney Anoia 34 October 22, 2000 Heart Attack
Johnny Valentine 73 April 24, 2001 Natural Causes
Terry Gordy 40 July 16, 2001 Heart Attack
Rhonda Singh (Bertha Faye) 40 July 27, 2001 Unknown
Dennis Coraluzzo 48 July 29, 2001 Stroke
Chris Adams 46 October 7, 2001 Shot to Death
Helen Hart 77 November 4, 2001 Organ Failure
Russ Haas 27 December 15, 2001 Heart Failure
Swede Hanson 68 February 20, 2002 Alzheimer’s Disease
Wahoo McDaniel 63 April 18, 2002 Stroke
Lou Thesz 86 April 28, 2002 Natural Causes
Randy “Pee Wee” Anderson 41 May 7, 2002 Natural Causes
Alex “Big Dick Dudley” Rizzo 34 May 16, 2002 Unknown
“British Bulldog” Davey Boy Smith 39 May 17, 2002 Heart Attack
Ted Petty (Rocco Rock) 49 September 21, 2002 Heart Attack
“Mr. Wrestling” Tim Woods ?? November 30, 2002 Heart Attack
“The Original Sheik” Ed Farahat ?? January 18, 2003 Natural Causes
Curt Hennig 44 February 10, 2003 Drug Overdose
Miss Elizabeth (Elizabeth Heulette) 42 May 1, 2003 Drug Overdose
“Classie” Freddie Blassie 85 June 2, 2003 Natural Causes
Anthony “Pitbull #2″ Durante 36 September 26, 2003 Drug Overdose
Stu Hart 88 October 16, 2003 Pneumonia
Road Warrior Hawk (Mike Hegstrand) 46 October 19, 2003 Heart Attack
Mike “Crash Holly” Lockwood 32 November 6, 2003 Asphyxiation
Moondog Spot (Larry Lathman) 51 November 29, 2003 Heart Attack
Jack Tunney (Former WWE President) 68 January 24, 2004 Natural Causes
Hercules Hernandez 45 March 6. 2004 Heart Attack
Pepper Gomez 77 May 6, 2004 Kidney Failure
Pat “Bomber” Roach 67 July 17, 2004 Cancer
Jim Barnett (Promoter) 80 September 17, 2004 Cancer and Pneumonia
Ray “Big Boss Man” Traylor 42 September 22, 2004 Heart Attack
“Pistol” Pez Whatley 54 January 18, 2005 Heart Failure
Chris Candido 33 April 28, 2005 Blood Clot after Surgery
Shinya Hashimoto 40 July 11, 2005 Brain Anresum
Lord Alfred Hayes 77 July 21, 2005 Stroke
Ed “Sailor” White (Moondog King) 56 August 25, 2005 Unknown
The Crusher (Reggie Lisowski) 79 October 22, 2005 Natural Causes
Eddie Guerrero 38 November 13, 2005 Heart Failure
Mike “Johnny Grunge” Durham 39 February 16, 2006
Victor Quinones (Owner of IWA Puerto Rico) 46 April 2, 2006 Natural Causes
John “Earthquake” Tenta 42 June 7, 2006 Bladder Cancer
Bob Orton Sr. 76 July 14, 2006 Heart Attack
Antonio Peña (Mexican Promoter) 57 October 6, 2006 Heart Attack
Jumping Joey Maggs 37 October 15, 2006 Unknown
Scott “Bam Bam” Bigelow 45 January 19, 2007 Drug Overdose
Mike Awesome 42 February 17, 2007 Suicide
Bad News (Brown) Allen Coage 63 March 6, 2007 Heart Attack
Ernie “The Cat” Ladd 68 March 10, 2007 Cancer
Arnold Skaaland 82 March 13, 2007 Natural Causes
Sandy Barr 69 June 2, 2007 Heart Attack
Sensational Sherri Martel 49 June 15, 2007 Unknown
Shane “Biff Wellington” Bower 42 June 23, 2007 Heart Attack
Nancy Daus (Woman from WCW) 42 June 23, 2007 Strangulation
Chris Benoit 40 June 25, 2007 Suicide
Brian “Crush” Adams (43)–August 13, 2007–Natural Causes
The Missing Link (Dewey Robertson) (68)–August 16, 2007–Died from cancer
Fabulous Moolah (Lillian Ellison) (84)–November 3, 2007–Natural Causes
Andrew Martin (Test) - 1975 - 2009 - Overdose of drugs
Captain Lou Albano - 1933 - 2009 - Prolonged Illness
Umaga - 4 December, 2009 - Heart Attack
Lance Cade - 2010 - Heart Failure
Bastion Booger - 2010 - heart attack
Giant Gonzalez - 2010 - Diabetes
Chris Kanyon - 2010 - Suicide
Jack Brisco - 2010 - Heart Attack
Ludvig Borga - 2010 - Heart Attack
Macho Man Randy Savaage, 2011 - Accident
jimbopm
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njmcfc1894 said:For the old school guys, here's list of some of the deaths over the years
Andre The Giant 46 January 27, 1993 Heart Attack
Kerry Von Erich 33 February 18, 1993 Suicide
Dino Bravo 44 March 11, 1993 Drive-By Shooting
Joey Marella 30 July 4, 1994 Auto Accident
Boris Malenko 61 September 1, 1994 Cancer
Art Barr 28 November 23, 1994 Drug-Related Cause
Jerry Blackwell 45 January 22, 1995 Pneumonia
Eddie Gilbert 33 February 18, 1995 Heart Attack
Big John Studd 46 March 20, 1995 Hodgkin’s Disease
Ray Stevens 60 May 3, 1996 Heart Attack
Dick Murdoch 49 June 15, 1996 Heart Attack
Herb Abrams 41 July 23, 1996 Drug Overdose
Sapphire 61 September 10, 1996 Heart Attack
Dr. Jerry Graham 58 January 24, 1997 Stroke
Bulldog Bob Brown 58 February 6, 1997 Heart Attack
Stan Stasiak 60 June 12, 1997 Heart Failure
Jeep Swenson 40 August 19, 1997 Heart Attack
Fritz Von Erich 68 September 10, 1997 Cancer
Dick “Bulldog” Brower 63 September 16, 1997 Diabetes
Brian Pillman 35 October 5, 1997 Arteriosclerotic Heart Disease
Bobo Brazil 74 January 20, 1998 Heart Problems
Louie Spiccoli 27 February 15, 1998 Carisopridol Overdose
Junkyard Dog 45 June 1, 1998 Auto Accident
Terry Garvin 60 August 17, 1998 Cancer
Giant Haystacks 55 November 30, 1998 Stomach Cancer
Brady Boone 40 December 15, 1998 Auto Accident
Sam Mushnick 93 December 31, 1998 Internal Bleeding
Shohei “Baba” Giant 61 January 31, 1999 Bowel Cancer
The Renegade 23 February 23, 1999 Suicide
Kurt Von Hess 65 March 13, 1999 Heart Attack
Rick Rude 41 April 20, 1999 Heart Attack
Owen Hart 33 May 23, 1999 Accidental Fall
Gorilla Monsoon 62 October 6, 1999 Heart Illness
Hiro Matsuda 62 November 27, 1999 Cancer
Bobby Duncum Jr. 34 January 24, 2000 Drug Overdose
Gordon Solie 71 July 27, 2000 Cancer
Toru Tanaka 70 August 22, 2000 Natural Causes
“Yokozuna” Rodney Anoia 34 October 22, 2000 Heart Attack
Johnny Valentine 73 April 24, 2001 Natural Causes
Terry Gordy 40 July 16, 2001 Heart Attack
Rhonda Singh (Bertha Faye) 40 July 27, 2001 Unknown
Dennis Coraluzzo 48 July 29, 2001 Stroke
Chris Adams 46 October 7, 2001 Shot to Death
Helen Hart 77 November 4, 2001 Organ Failure
Russ Haas 27 December 15, 2001 Heart Failure
Swede Hanson 68 February 20, 2002 Alzheimer’s Disease
Wahoo McDaniel 63 April 18, 2002 Stroke
Lou Thesz 86 April 28, 2002 Natural Causes
Randy “Pee Wee” Anderson 41 May 7, 2002 Natural Causes
Alex “Big Dick Dudley” Rizzo 34 May 16, 2002 Unknown
“British Bulldog” Davey Boy Smith 39 May 17, 2002 Heart Attack
Ted Petty (Rocco Rock) 49 September 21, 2002 Heart Attack
“Mr. Wrestling” Tim Woods ?? November 30, 2002 Heart Attack
“The Original Sheik” Ed Farahat ?? January 18, 2003 Natural Causes
Curt Hennig 44 February 10, 2003 Drug Overdose
Miss Elizabeth (Elizabeth Heulette) 42 May 1, 2003 Drug Overdose
“Classie” Freddie Blassie 85 June 2, 2003 Natural Causes
Anthony “Pitbull #2″ Durante 36 September 26, 2003 Drug Overdose
Stu Hart 88 October 16, 2003 Pneumonia
Road Warrior Hawk (Mike Hegstrand) 46 October 19, 2003 Heart Attack
Mike “Crash Holly” Lockwood 32 November 6, 2003 Asphyxiation
Moondog Spot (Larry Lathman) 51 November 29, 2003 Heart Attack
Jack Tunney (Former WWE President) 68 January 24, 2004 Natural Causes
Hercules Hernandez 45 March 6. 2004 Heart Attack
Pepper Gomez 77 May 6, 2004 Kidney Failure
Pat “Bomber” Roach 67 July 17, 2004 Cancer
Jim Barnett (Promoter) 80 September 17, 2004 Cancer and Pneumonia
Ray “Big Boss Man” Traylor 42 September 22, 2004 Heart Attack
“Pistol” Pez Whatley 54 January 18, 2005 Heart Failure
Chris Candido 33 April 28, 2005 Blood Clot after Surgery
Shinya Hashimoto 40 July 11, 2005 Brain Anresum
Lord Alfred Hayes 77 July 21, 2005 Stroke
Ed “Sailor” White (Moondog King) 56 August 25, 2005 Unknown
The Crusher (Reggie Lisowski) 79 October 22, 2005 Natural Causes
Eddie Guerrero 38 November 13, 2005 Heart Failure
Mike “Johnny Grunge” Durham 39 February 16, 2006
Victor Quinones (Owner of IWA Puerto Rico) 46 April 2, 2006 Natural Causes
John “Earthquake” Tenta 42 June 7, 2006 Bladder Cancer
Bob Orton Sr. 76 July 14, 2006 Heart Attack
Antonio Peña (Mexican Promoter) 57 October 6, 2006 Heart Attack
Jumping Joey Maggs 37 October 15, 2006 Unknown
Scott “Bam Bam” Bigelow 45 January 19, 2007 Drug Overdose
Mike Awesome 42 February 17, 2007 Suicide
Bad News (Brown) Allen Coage 63 March 6, 2007 Heart Attack
Ernie “The Cat” Ladd 68 March 10, 2007 Cancer
Arnold Skaaland 82 March 13, 2007 Natural Causes
Sandy Barr 69 June 2, 2007 Heart Attack
Sensational Sherri Martel 49 June 15, 2007 Unknown
Shane “Biff Wellington” Bower 42 June 23, 2007 Heart Attack
Nancy Daus (Woman from WCW) 42 June 23, 2007 Strangulation
Chris Benoit 40 June 25, 2007 Suicide
Brian “Crush” Adams (43)–August 13, 2007–Natural Causes
The Missing Link (Dewey Robertson) (68)–August 16, 2007–Died from cancer
Fabulous Moolah (Lillian Ellison) (84)–November 3, 2007–Natural Causes
Andrew Martin (Test) - 1975 - 2009 - Overdose of drugs
Captain Lou Albano - 1933 - 2009 - Prolonged Illness
Umaga - 4 December, 2009 - Heart Attack
Lance Cade - 2010 - Heart Failure
Bastion Booger - 2010 - heart attack
Giant Gonzalez - 2010 - Diabetes
Chris Kanyon - 2010 - Suicide
Jack Brisco - 2010 - Heart Attack
Ludvig Borga - 2010 - Heart Attack
Macho Man Randy Savaage, 2011 - Accident
Wow, when you see it like that, it hits home. All of those heart related deaths and people not making anywhere near life expectancy. Chilling.
Kun Aguero said:Who does everyone think ran Stone Cold Steve Austin down? I think it was the rock.
It was Rikishi.
He did it for The Rock out of some Samoan ancestry thing or something. That whole period was pretty sketchy.
-- Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:15 pm --
argyle said:Yes but then you wrestling geeks all talk about it 1. as if its real. 2. as if you all know the inner workings of everything. 3. you complain and moan about it so I don't know why you watch it.
Never seen anyone discuss Breaking Bad etc like the way you wrestling fans discuss every minute detail of wrestling. If a storyline went in a way someone didn't like they wouldn't woman about the way you wrestlefans talk about it.
Wrestling has been shit for over decade, don't know why so many watch it even though they complain its so shit.
I've also noticed wrestling fans are always very touchy and quick to defend it and talk about it in quite pretentious terms, possibly because they know its all a bit silly.
You say wrestling fans are very touchy, yet you've come into a wrestling thread in which wrestling fans post about wrestling have insulted both wrestling as a product and wrestling fans. What exactly did you expect to happen?
Us all roundly go "My God argyle, that is some truly insightful stuff. I have never heard the argument "wrestling is shit" before. I will immediately stop watching and talking about this little show I've been watching for 20 years after reading such a gloriously well thought out argument. You have saved me many hours of possible enjoyment in the future. Thank you very much"?. I also have never ever heard any wrestling fans talk about the subject like the results are not pre-determined in those decades of watching and talking about it, and I'm pretty sure I have more exposure to them than you have.
I'll repost this video, specifically for you and hope you can somehow take this to heart
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI[/youtube]