General Wrestling Thread

[pudge]

Didn't Sandman and Tommy Dreamer have a feud in which Dreamer "blinded" him and for the duration of the story line he didn't leave his house and had his wife answer the door and tell people he was legitimately blind.

That's commitment to the character tbf

 

[Damocles]

Didn't Sandman and Tommy Dreamer have a feud in which Dreamer "blinded" him and for the duration of the story line he didn't leave his house and had his wife answer the door and tell people he was legitimately blind.

That's commitment to the character tbf

He did, but back in those days kayfabe was supreme and everybody did it.

Let's not forget that Kevin Sullivan told his wife to "be more affectionate" with Chris Benoit to the point where they had a real affair and eventually married each other.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Didn't Sandman and Tommy Dreamer have a feud in which Dreamer "blinded" him and for the duration of the story line he didn't leave his house and had his wife answer the door and tell people he was legitimately blind.

That's commitment to the character tbf

Heyman: "Hey Sandman, listen, instead of coming all the way to the arena and getting drunk, why not just sit at home and get pissed on your own couch? Even better, you can get your wife to answer the door, do the shopping etc."

Sounds perfect.

 

[pudge]

Didn't Sandman and Tommy Dreamer have a feud in which Dreamer "blinded" him and for the duration of the story line he didn't leave his house and had his wife answer the door and tell people he was legitimately blind.

That's commitment to the character tbf

He did, but back in those days kayfabe was supreme and everybody did it.

Let's not forget that Kevin Sullivan told his wife to "be more affectionate" with Chris Benoit to the point where they had a real affair and eventually married each other.

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;)

 

[BlackaryDaggery]

Seeming as his name as popped up on this page, thought I'd post this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68M5YXUNxTo

I've forgot how to encode a youtube link on here!

 

[quiet_riot]

Didn't Sandman and Tommy Dreamer have a feud in which Dreamer "blinded" him and for the duration of the story line he didn't leave his house and had his wife answer the door and tell people he was legitimately blind.

That's commitment to the character tbf

He did, but back in those days kayfabe was supreme and everybody did it.

Let's not forget that Kevin Sullivan told his wife to "be more affectionate" with Chris Benoit to the point where they had a real affair and eventually married each other.

And then he killed her?

 

[pinkwheeltrim]

My boy loves WWE or whatever it is called. I think it is the biggest pile of tosh going, that is except when the Undertaker is on - brilliant :)))

One of those things. People only tend to get invested in certain characters, and even if you stop watching it you never really lose it.

My first big support was behind Bret Hart as he used to wrestle in Manchester and he was just good at what he did. Not flashy and not homoerotic like Shawn Michaels, he just had the best matches all the time and you got the idea that he really was "the best". I'd pay £100 of my money to watch Bret Hart get in the ring again with absolutely anybody.

It's obvious that you love your wrestling Damo, and you seem very knowledgeable on the subject, but I need to pick you up on that.


If wearing a leather jacket over skintight pink spandex, whilst oiled up, isn't homoerotic, then I don't know what is!

I'm not gay or owt, but I'm not a blokey bloke either, and I have always enjoyed the slightly homoerotic element of wrestling, and the look of bewilderment when you point this out to the more meat headed grapple fan, is always good for a laugh.

For the record, I think our current city team have a strong, homoerotic, element to them.

 

[Damocles]

People find homoerotic elements in whatever they want. I don't particularly find anything sexual about people who have muscles no more than I find people who don't have muscles unattractive necessarily.

You have to remember that wrestling started out with other combat sports such as boxing in the carnivals and circus. They used to wear trunks so they didn't have anything for their opponent to grab onto and have leverage to throw them, the same reason sumo wrestlers are topless.

The change to singlets happened due to a rule set in by amateur wrestling organisation, the NCAA. Professional wrestling always admired amateur wrestlers and for many it was a natural progression. In the 60s, most people wore trunks but as the rule change in the NCAA happened in the 70s you started to see more singlets and shirt/tights in professional wrestling. By the time the 80s hit people worked out that they could "brand" their outfit to make people notice them and it just sort of became something that everybody did.

Golddust is a good example of a homoerotic gimmick and it's actually one of my favourite gimmicks that I thought helped move wrestling into a more culturally in touch environment.

 

[Damocles]

Answered this earlier in the thread

Trying hard here not to take the piss Dam or seem to being a cockscuker but you are like the cleverest poster and you like WWE?

Yes. WWE is entertaining, athletic and pretty psychological.

It's one of those things that you have to know a bit about to appreciate as an artform. Essentially the wrestlers inside the ring attempt to control the emotion of a massive crowd by getting them to suspend their disbelief and get enthralled in a battle. They then use classic storytelling to keep them going until the crescendo at the end.

Done well, and it's extremely rare nowadays in WWE to be honest, there's very few forms of narrative that illicit that edge of your seat excitement like wrestling can.

Think of it as a live action movie but the director is personally pacing the film to suit the reactions from the audience. That's a decent description.

 

[Damocles]

It's not really breaking it down, it's just describing literally what it is.

Many people watched it as kids so don't understand what the point of it was as it went over their heads at that age.

Think of it like ballet. Ballet is a storytelling medium if you watch and understand it. To people who don't watch or understand it it is just dancing. Same thing.