George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

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denislawsbackheel said:
Back in the day I owned a house on Horton Road next to Maine Road.
Whenever a team like Chelsea or Everon or the scum came to Maine Road I’d get home ASAP from the game and stand at my front door until the away fans had dispersed.
Only difference is I didn’t have an AK47!
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Family owned a grocers shop on Greame Street. On certain match days the security grills didn't come off until after the game.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

1.) Its been touted by many websites that Antifa are in on the mix.
2.) I asked for a link to the information and said poster didn't provide it, fortunately to the information suggested i found it.
3.) A few insults? What were these? If any insults from me were thrown out they were in response to the other poster.
4.) I haven't threatened violence once.
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You know, if ANTIFA stepped in to save Dr West's life, by his own account, then they're alright by me.

The REAL ANTIFA would not be smashing local businesses.

Corporate buildings, I could understand, but not anything less.
 
Vialli98 said:
So the fact that the #1 reason for families and households going utterly bankrupt in America being healthcare sits fine with you? If yes, fair enough. I suppose I'll never understand this mindset. If you put a proposal such as "you and your family will get free healthcare in exchange for a little increase in your taxes, that will still amount to less per year than what you pay in insurance premiums, which you no longer have to pay" to every single individual citizen, I'm fairly certain the majority of them would gladly accept that deal, so I don't think free healthcare is something the American people are fundamentally against, I think they (people who say they oppose policy ideas such as free healthcare) have been purposely misled by corporate media who treat it like it's some kind of crazy, whacko communist idea that could never work in the real world, thus convincing people who stand to benefit the most from it to vote against their own interests.

I don't say all of this to arrogantly lecture you on what your country *should* be like. I say it as a genuinely concerned ally who wants to see your people prosper, and as someone who has close family in the country.
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Coming to us soon if the Conservatives get their way.
 
Bigga said:
You know, if ANTIFA stepped in to save Dr West's life, by his own account, then they're alright by me.

The REAL ANTIFA would not be smashing local businesses.

Corporate buildings, I could understand, but not anything less.
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Did THEY?

REAL ANTIFA? Antifa are as bad as any far right group.

But if you think there ok, than that's for you. Not me.

And with Corp Buildings, its not ok for stores to be robbed and looted. Just like mr Floyds family have said, they are not doing it for the memory of him.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
Did THEY?

REAL ANTIFA? Antifa are as bad as any far right group.

But if you think there ok, than that's for you. Not me.

And with Corp Buildings, its not ok for stores to be robbed and looted. Just like mr Floyds family have said, they are not doing it for the memory of him.
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I'd rather stand with ANTIFA to push back on a right Winger fascist who thinks I'm not worth the air I breathe.

ANTIFA activists would NOT loot local businesses and stores.

That would be opportunists.

Totally different sections of society!
 
Bigga said:
I'd rather stand with ANTIFA to push back on a right Winger fascist who thinks I'm not worth the air I breathe.

ANTIFA activists would NOT loot local businesses and stores.

That would be opportunists.

Totally different sections of society!
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I Wouldn't stand with either, but each to their own.

And yes they do, there is legit proof of this online from various goings on over time. here in the UK and US
 
Bigga said:
A nobler statement, but you should clarify that instead of making it look like you're not sure where you stand.
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Yeah, you're right, it was a flippant remark that was a joke, didn't realise that iit was such a trigger for some in here. I guess everyone is a bit tense during these stressful times- especially the pleasant, Mr Angry 'Fuck Off' guy.

Stay safe, guys, and best of luck.
 
shevtheblue said:
It's quite clear that the protests have been hijacked by certain groups for their own use. One is the likes of Antifa & the extreme left who are using this to push their own aggressive agenda to "bring down the system". On the back of that where they have decided to take down corporate America by going out on the streets with hoods and balaclavas (not due to covid) and taking on the cops head on, destroying neighbourhoods, people have seen to take advantage of the chaos and loot. Then there are elements of the far right that are clearly infultrating marches and stirring shit up, all the while there are strange things happening such as pallets of bricks being given police escorts and turning up in the middle of the street. The marches have peaceful intent, but have been violated and diluted by groups and individuals with their own agendas and its caused a more toxic environment. Headlining all of this is President Dickwad who has had police tear gass people so he can get his photo opp in front of the church with the bible. Americans have long said their right to bear arms is to stop the Government from doing what they like, this could get even more messy.
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It may be true that the looting and criminality have diluted the message and aims domestically but I don't think that's the case internationally, as attested to by many of the marches going on around the world.

I remember reading Time Magazine (the American version) at the time of the Mark Duggan/looting in 2011. Over here, most people just thought it was about widespread criminality and the underclass of society stealing as much shit as they could but in America (or according to the people interviewed by the magazine), the view seemed to be that the near-entirety of the unrest was to do with Mark Duggan/police brutality.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
I Wouldn't stand with either, but each to their own.

And yes they do, there is legit proof of this online from various goings on over time. here in the UK and US
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Alright, well you're talking about mostly White middle classed people smashing and looting local working class businesses.

Which is kind of super ironic...
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:



Coming to us soon if the Conservatives get their way.
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It boggles my mind when you see things like that, things the average American family has to struggle with every single day, that they still passed up on someone like Bernie twice in favour of corporate status-quo politicians like Clinton and Biden.
 
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stonerblue said:
Give us a link to the antifa organisation.
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Man_City_Loyal said:
Spot on with this.

Antifa and other organisations have been at it for years and have jumped on this.

After this has all calmed down, just imagine the amount of people who will end up in prison, or taken to court because of handling stolen goods.
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As Antifa stands for Anti Facists .....(We literally had a World War about this ) aren't we all Antifa?
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
I Wouldn't stand with either, but each to their own.

And yes they do, there is legit proof of this online from various goings on over time. here in the UK and US
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And you wouldn't stand against racists...?

I know I couldn't rely on you if I was cornered, then.

I must be stupid cos I wouldn't do the same, vice versa.
 
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