George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

Dax777 said:
That's not a fact. That's an assumption. Facts in this scenario will only include things that already happened. An assumption is what you think would have happened. The above claim falls in the latter category.


1. He wasn't walking towards a protest with a rifle. He was stationed at a Used Car Lot hoping to protect it from rioters ( not Protestors) who were looking to loot and burn businesses down. He was there being interviewed by a reporter when one of the protestors accosted him.

2. He wasn't driven there by his mom. Another false story. He works in Kenosha as a lifeguard and stayed after work to join the Militia guarding properties.


I have to agree with your conclusion that we are fucked though. But I'd suggest thstd because more and more people care more about sides than they do about facts. And that I believe is a recipe for disaster.
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I don't think caring about facts and sides are mutually exclusive

Dax777 said:
When you read my response, you have to do so in the context of what it's responding to. But I am refraining from responding to Kenoshan related stuff as this is the wrong thread.

As it relates to deflection, as that's a general accusation. How can that be true when I'm responding to a specific claim being made?

I also agree American kids are being brainwashed, but here again I think Trump and his cronies are a minor player in the brainwashing of our youths. The biggest players are our colleges and institutions of higher learning that are churning out victims at alarming rates.
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What are the college kids being brainwashed about/ with?
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
In your opinion. You are the problem - you denounce anyone who dares to disagree with your cherished opinion as stupid ,racist or whatever. People like you cause division and polarisation and then dare to hang your twisted mentality on the legacy of MLK. Do one you intellectual fascist.
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So, I have a question. I understand that to some degree we have consensus on issues.

I 'liked' @domalino because it's 99.9% treu, but his opinion of you is his own. I neither agree or disagree with his personal view as we HAVE come to consensus along the line.

So, my question is; if nothing, within the 'system' (that disproportionately affects certain demographics) has changed regarding the basic recognition that everyone is equal, what do you offer as a solution or a pathway to peace?

I do wonder if 'march peacefully' is going to be one of the answers...
 
domalino said:
It's really tragic to see people fall for the same bullshit attempts to demonise protesters that were wheeled out 50 years ago.

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MLK wasn't violent and spoke out firmly against it.
Today people are being the given the mic at BLM events who are calling for extreme violence. One of the problems with BLM is that it has no leaders, no-one to moderate the feeling of anger and direct it towards something that can be engaged with. Many of the hardcore BLM lot have views about race (separatism, skin colour being a person's primary characteristic etc.) that are, at a fundamental level, more inline with the KKK than MLK. Most black people wouldn't even want them as spokespeople

With that said, I didn't say that peaceful protestors shouldn't be engaged with (even if without leaders it will be difficult). You're the one mixing them up with rioters.
 
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Silva_Spell said:
MLK wasn't violent and spoke out firmly against it.
Today people are being the given the mic at BLM events who are calling for extreme violence. One of the problems with BLM is that it has no leaders, no-one to moderate the feeling of anger and direct it towards something that can be engaged with. Many of the hardcore BLM lot have views about race (separatism, skin colour being a person's primary characteristic etc.) that are, at a fundamental level, more inline with the KKK than MLK. Most black people wouldn't even want them as spokespeople
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The mainstream media portrayed MLK as a violence inciting, riot raising troublemaker.

That's why there are so many quotes from him about being non-violent, because they were rebuttals to accusations thrown at him non-stop.

You penultimate sentence is a complete fiction. "Many" is not the way to describe a tiny minority, and if you think they are anything more than that, it's because you've fallen for the same stupid media fear-mongering I showed in the political cartoon from 50 years ago.
 
The perfect fumble said:
I'd settle for a discernible narrative.
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A peculiar response when I've explained that I appreciate and respect lost lives fought for Humanity, whether that's one person or a hundred million with the belief THEY were doing the right thing.

I care not for Gov reasons and the lies they tell to get people to lose their existence. I care not the any of those Govs, so I'm unsure WHY you keep trundling down a pathway that is not my conversation.

The "discernable narrative" you seek is the one in your head that you do not transport to the page in any understandable fashion to have dialogue with.

Maybe it's for another thread where you can express your thoughts clearer...?
 
domalino said:
The mainstream media portrayed MLK as a violence inciting, riot raising troublemaker.

That's why there are so many quotes from him about being non-violent, because they were rebuttals to accusations thrown at him non-stop.

You penultimate sentence is a complete fiction. "Many" is not the way to describe a tiny minority, and if you think they are anything more than that, it's because you've fallen for the same stupid media fear-mongering I showed in the political cartoon from 50 years ago.
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The MSM has been pretty accommodating towards BLM

I said many of "hardcore BLM", not the entire protests.
 
domalino said:
The mainstream media portrayed MLK as a violence inciting, riot raising troublemaker.

That's why there are so many quotes from him about being non-violent, because they were rebuttals to accusations thrown at him non-stop.

You penultimate sentence is a complete fiction. "Many" is not the way to describe a tiny minority, and if you think they are anything more than that, it's because you've fallen for the same stupid media fear-mongering I showed in the political cartoon from 50 years ago.
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So why was the whole of America outraged at his assassination, to the point they built statues commemorating him, have a national day devoted to him and revere him as a visionary? Simple; few believed the narrative about him being the head of a violent movement.

Looks to me like your narrative is one that "all of America hated MLK", when in actuality his poise, charisma and genuine heartfelt sincerity in his message changed many narratives about race across the entire country. Many people from all walks of life rejected the mainstream media's attempts to smear him, hence his legacy. The same cannot be said about these thugs who chant "Death to America".
 
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