Global Warming

Another damning email


“From: ernst.kattweizel@redcar.ac.uk
Sent: 29th October 2009
To: The Knights Carbonic

Gentlemen, the culmination of our great plan approaches fast. What the Master called “the ordering of men’s affairs by a transcendent world state, ordained by God and answerable to no man”, which we now know as Communist World Government, advances towards its climax at Copenhagen. For 185 years since the Master, known to the laity as Joseph Fourier, launched his scheme for world domination, the entire physical science community has been working towards this moment.

The early phases of the plan worked magnificently. First the Master’s initial thesis - that the release of infrared radiation is delayed by the atmosphere - had to be accepted by the scientific establishment. I will not bother you with details of the gold paid, the threats made and the blood spilt to achieve this end. But the result was the elimination of the naysayers and the disgrace or incarceration of the Master’s rivals. Within 35 years the 3rd Warden of the Grand Temple of the Knights Carbonic (our revered prophet John Tyndall) was able to “demonstrate” the Master’s thesis. Our control of physical science was by then so tight that no major objections were sustained.

More resistence was encountered (and swiftly despatched) when we sought to install the 6th Warden (Svante Arrhenius) first as professor of physics at Stockholm University, then as rector. From this position he was able to project the Master’s second grand law - that the infrared radiation trapped in a planet’s atmosphere increases in line with the quantity of carbon dioxide the atmosphere contains. He and his followers (led by the Junior Warden Max Planck) were then able to adapt the entire canon of physical and chemical science to sustain the second law.

Then began the most hazardous task of all: our attempt to control the instrumental record. Securing the consent of the scientific establishment was a simple matter. But thermometers had by then become widely available, and amateur meteorologists were making their own readings. We needed to show a steady rise as industrialisation proceeded, but some of these unfortunates had other ideas. The global co-option of police and coroners required unprecedented resources, but so far we have been able to cover our tracks.

The over-enthusiasm of certain of the Knights Carbonic in 1998 was most regrettable. The high reading in that year has proved impossibly costly to sustain. Those of our enemies who have yet to be silenced maintain that the lower temperatures after that date provide evidence of global cooling, even though we have ensured that eight of the ten warmest years since 1850 have occurred since 2001(10). From now on we will engineer a smoother progression.

Our co-option of the physical world has been just as successful. The thinning of the Arctic ice cap was a masterstroke. The ring of secret nuclear power stations around the Arctic Circle, attached to giant immersion heaters, remains undetected, as do the space-based lasers dissolving the world’s glaciers.

Altering the migratory and reproductive patterns of the world’s wildlife has proved more challenging. Though we have now asserted control over the world’s biologists, there is no accounting for the unauthorised observations of farmers, gardeners, bird-watchers and other troublemakers. We have therefore been forced to drive migrating birds, fish and insects into higher latitudes, and to release several million tonnes of plant pheromones every year to accelerate flowering and fruiting. None of this is cheap, and ever more public money, secretly diverted from national accounts by compliant governments, is required to sustain it.

The co-operation of these governments requires unflagging effort. The capture of George W. Bush, a late convert to the cause of Communist World Government, was made possible only by the threatened release of footage filmed by a knight at Yale, showing the future president engaged in coitus with a Ford Mustang. Most ostensibly-capitalist governments remain apprised of where their real interests lie, though I note with disappointment that we have so far failed to eliminate Vaclav Klaus. Through the offices of compliant states, the Master’s third grand law has been accepted: world government will be established under the guise of controlling manmade emissions of greenhouse gases.

Keeping the scientific community in line remains a challenge. The national academies are becoming ever more querulous and greedy, and require higher pay-offs each year. The inexplicable events of the past month, in which the windows of all the leading scientific institutions were broken and a horse’s head turned up in James Hansen’s bed, appear to have staved off the immediate crisis, but for how much longer can we maintain the consensus?

Knights Carbonic, now that the hour of our triumph is at hand, I urge you all to redouble your efforts. In the name of the Master, go forth and terrify.

Professor Ernst Kattweizel, University of Redcar. 21st Grand Warden of the Temple of the Knights Carbonic.”

This is the kind of conspiracy the deniers need to reveal to show that manmade climate change is a con. The hacked emails are a hard knock, but the science of global warming withstands much more than that.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.monbiot.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.monbiot.com</a>

References:

1. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/</a>

2. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=914&filename=1219239172.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 239172.txt</a>

3. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=490&filename=1107454306.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 454306.txt</a>

4. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=891&filename=1212063122.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 063122.txt</a>

5. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=307&filename=1051190249.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 190249.txt</a>

6. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=484&filename=1106322460.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 322460.txt</a>

7. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=419&filename=1089318616.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 318616.txt</a>

8. eg <a class="postlink" href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/james ... l-warming/</a>

9. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116882" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116882</a>

10. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20081216.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/p ... 81216.html</a>
 
we may never know, but one thing is for sure it is another great reason for the goverment to TAX us and just watch them go
 
twinkletoes said:
Another damning email


“From: ernst.kattweizel@redcar.ac.uk
Sent: 29th October 2009
To: The Knights Carbonic

Gentlemen, the culmination of our great plan approaches fast. What the Master called “the ordering of men’s affairs by a transcendent world state, ordained by God and answerable to no man”, which we now know as Communist World Government, advances towards its climax at Copenhagen. For 185 years since the Master, known to the laity as Joseph Fourier, launched his scheme for world domination, the entire physical science community has been working towards this moment.

The early phases of the plan worked magnificently. First the Master’s initial thesis - that the release of infrared radiation is delayed by the atmosphere - had to be accepted by the scientific establishment. I will not bother you with details of the gold paid, the threats made and the blood spilt to achieve this end. But the result was the elimination of the naysayers and the disgrace or incarceration of the Master’s rivals. Within 35 years the 3rd Warden of the Grand Temple of the Knights Carbonic (our revered prophet John Tyndall) was able to “demonstrate” the Master’s thesis. Our control of physical science was by then so tight that no major objections were sustained.

More resistence was encountered (and swiftly despatched) when we sought to install the 6th Warden (Svante Arrhenius) first as professor of physics at Stockholm University, then as rector. From this position he was able to project the Master’s second grand law - that the infrared radiation trapped in a planet’s atmosphere increases in line with the quantity of carbon dioxide the atmosphere contains. He and his followers (led by the Junior Warden Max Planck) were then able to adapt the entire canon of physical and chemical science to sustain the second law.

Then began the most hazardous task of all: our attempt to control the instrumental record. Securing the consent of the scientific establishment was a simple matter. But thermometers had by then become widely available, and amateur meteorologists were making their own readings. We needed to show a steady rise as industrialisation proceeded, but some of these unfortunates had other ideas. The global co-option of police and coroners required unprecedented resources, but so far we have been able to cover our tracks.

The over-enthusiasm of certain of the Knights Carbonic in 1998 was most regrettable. The high reading in that year has proved impossibly costly to sustain. Those of our enemies who have yet to be silenced maintain that the lower temperatures after that date provide evidence of global cooling, even though we have ensured that eight of the ten warmest years since 1850 have occurred since 2001(10). From now on we will engineer a smoother progression.

Our co-option of the physical world has been just as successful. The thinning of the Arctic ice cap was a masterstroke. The ring of secret nuclear power stations around the Arctic Circle, attached to giant immersion heaters, remains undetected, as do the space-based lasers dissolving the world’s glaciers.

Altering the migratory and reproductive patterns of the world’s wildlife has proved more challenging. Though we have now asserted control over the world’s biologists, there is no accounting for the unauthorised observations of farmers, gardeners, bird-watchers and other troublemakers. We have therefore been forced to drive migrating birds, fish and insects into higher latitudes, and to release several million tonnes of plant pheromones every year to accelerate flowering and fruiting. None of this is cheap, and ever more public money, secretly diverted from national accounts by compliant governments, is required to sustain it.

The co-operation of these governments requires unflagging effort. The capture of George W. Bush, a late convert to the cause of Communist World Government, was made possible only by the threatened release of footage filmed by a knight at Yale, showing the future president engaged in coitus with a Ford Mustang. Most ostensibly-capitalist governments remain apprised of where their real interests lie, though I note with disappointment that we have so far failed to eliminate Vaclav Klaus. Through the offices of compliant states, the Master’s third grand law has been accepted: world government will be established under the guise of controlling manmade emissions of greenhouse gases.

Keeping the scientific community in line remains a challenge. The national academies are becoming ever more querulous and greedy, and require higher pay-offs each year. The inexplicable events of the past month, in which the windows of all the leading scientific institutions were broken and a horse’s head turned up in James Hansen’s bed, appear to have staved off the immediate crisis, but for how much longer can we maintain the consensus?

Knights Carbonic, now that the hour of our triumph is at hand, I urge you all to redouble your efforts. In the name of the Master, go forth and terrify.

Professor Ernst Kattweizel, University of Redcar. 21st Grand Warden of the Temple of the Knights Carbonic.”

This is the kind of conspiracy the deniers need to reveal to show that manmade climate change is a con. The hacked emails are a hard knock, but the science of global warming withstands much more than that.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.monbiot.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.monbiot.com</a>

References:

1. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/</a>

2. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=914&filename=1219239172.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 239172.txt</a>

3. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=490&filename=1107454306.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 454306.txt</a>

4. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=891&filename=1212063122.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 063122.txt</a>

5. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=307&filename=1051190249.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 190249.txt</a>

6. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=484&filename=1106322460.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 322460.txt</a>

7. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=419&filename=1089318616.txt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/email ... 318616.txt</a>

8. eg <a class="postlink" href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/james ... l-warming/</a>

9. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116882" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116882</a>

10. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2008/pr20081216.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/p ... 81216.html</a>


Seems that you're the Johnny Crossan of global warming (spam quoting articles)

It'd be far more interesting to hear your views on the actual science of global warming, not least to see if you "support" it for the right reasons.
 
My views are that global warming is the biggest single threat to humanity and that we should use all our efforts to stop it or contain it.

Unfortunately there are too many vested interests stopping us from actually doing little more than paying lip service to it.
 
twinkletoes said:
My views are that global warming is the biggest single threat to humanity and that we should use all our efforts to stop it or contain it.

Unfortunately there are too many vested interests stopping us from actually doing little more than paying lip service to it.

Holy exaggeration Batman!

I think nuclear war might be a little bit on the bigger side. Pandemics too.
 
not an exaggeration

there will be water wars land wars all the result of climatic change


end over production ,buy local in season produce whenever possible
 
Damocles said:
Well, scientifically speaking, there is no real disagreement within the community about whether or not global warming is occurring. It is, and we can prove it. The disagreement is whether or not it is caused by humans or not.

The problem we have, is that we just don't have the information available that we need. The fossil record shows large patterns of movement in the climate of the Earth, yet we don't know if this particular one is natural or man made.

Causality is a woman in climate science, think of it this way. City conceded a goal in the last minute of the derby and we got beat 4-3. Now, whose fault was it? Was it the refs for allowing the extra time, was it Richards for switching off, was it Tevez's for missing a few chances? Any of these could have changed the result, yet there is no one cause and no guarantee that if any of them had been changed that the result would have changed. That's pretty much our problem now.

Climate science relies on our computer models being an accurate reflection of the way the climate works. If these are wrong, then everything we know is wrong.

This is one of those areas that I have a keen interest in, and have read extensively on it, and I wouldn't even hazard a guess at it.

What I do know, is that climate change has become a large money spinner for governments and companies. There are so many people getting paid on this issue that it will never be fully resolved. Also, most of the funding for expeditions comes indirectly from the environmental lobby groups or big energy companies, so it isn't exactly hard to believe that the scientists tend to interpret the data in a way that will keep them in a job. Climate science is currently so far away from real science (due to this introduced bias) that it's a shame.

Michael Crichton wrote an interesting (yet factually flawed) book on this, which name escapes me right now, which is definitely worth a read.

Many good points but why the need to bring up bad memories of how those scummy bastards cheated us!
 
Damocles said:
twinkletoes said:
My views are that global warming is the biggest single threat to humanity and that we should use all our efforts to stop it or contain it.

Unfortunately there are too many vested interests stopping us from actually doing little more than paying lip service to it.

Holy exaggeration Batman!

I think nuclear war might be a little bit on the bigger side. Pandemics too.

You haven't got a clue mate.
 
twinkletoes said:
Damocles said:
Holy exaggeration Batman!

I think nuclear war might be a little bit on the bigger side. Pandemics too.

You haven't got a clue mate.

That's also one of the worst posts I've seen in a while. Completely no content or justification, just an insult which, if you would have read my earlier posts, you would realise was completely wrong.

kronkonite said:
not an exaggeration

there will be water wars land wars all the result of climatic change


end over production ,buy local in season produce whenever possible

And you are basing this off of what? If the world's top climatologists can't work out what the effects will be globally, then how are you coming to these conclusions?

Let's try to decompose this a bit.

Well, if you are using the HadCM3 computer model, the world's climate won't see the type of hot/dry spells that you are talking about. The CCC2 model might predict this, but has been surpassed by the HadCM3 model as far as the defining AOGCM model goes, and it doesn't predict the extreme weather events that lead to the type of wars you are predicting.

Or have you actually done next to no research in to this, have seen Day After Tomorrow one too many times and have just been found out?

If you ever want a debate about the future effects of climate change, or a discussion about the accuracy of any of the IPCC models (which determine it), feel free to come back. Also, on the off chance that any of the Hadley guys read this, you guys are fucking awesome.
 
Damocles said:
twinkletoes said:
You haven't got a clue mate.

That's also one of the worst posts I've seen in a while. Completely no content or justification, just an insult which, if you would have read my earlier posts, you would realise was completely wrong.

kronkonite said:
not an exaggeration

there will be water wars land wars all the result of climatic change


end over production ,buy local in season produce whenever possible

And you are basing this off of what? If the world's top climatologists can't work out what the effects will be globally, then how are you coming to these conclusions?

Let's try to decompose this a bit.

Well, if you are using the HadCM3 computer model, the world's climate won't see the type of hot/dry spells that you are talking about. The CCC2 model might predict this, but has been surpassed by the HadCM3 model as far as the defining AOGCM model goes, and it doesn't predict the extreme weather events that lead to the type of wars you are predicting.

Or have you actually done next to no research in to this, have seen Day After Tomorrow one too many times and have just been found out?

If you ever want a debate about the future effects of climate change, or a discussion about the accuracy of any of the IPCC models (which determine it), feel free to come back. Also, on the off chance that any of the Hadley guys read this, you guys are fucking awesome.


Your conclusions are based on what? A few leaked emails! The whole premise of your argument is that you don't believe the science and anything that helps you to argue against it must be true.
 

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