GMP F*** Up Again

[Didsbury Dave]

as a distraction from the embarrassment of this video.

Who was who in this Canal Street version of Green Street from 2001?

Was it Stockport in the Bar?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mVxtR7m00o&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mVxtR7m ... re=related</a>

Stockport in Mantos, attacked by City.

 

[sweynforkbeard]

as a distraction from the embarrassment of this video.

Who was who in this Canal Street version of Green Street from 2001?

Was it Stockport in the Bar?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mVxtR7m00o&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mVxtR7m ... re=related</a>

You see this where it pays to use a proper removals company, moving is stressful enough without this- the cowboys we had last time were similarly rough with our furniture.

 

[Anonymous]

as a distraction from the embarrassment of this video.

Who was who in this Canal Street version of Green Street from 2001?

Was it Stockport in the Bar?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mVxtR7m00o&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mVxtR7m ... re=related</a>

Stockport in Mantos, attacked by City.

Who's running off at 40 secs and then again at 1.26?

 

[Skashion]

Will you stop going on about me you fucking tool.

Afraid not young man, because you were the idiot who posted up that youtube vid on Friday (since deleted) which showed a mob of yobs kicking the wotsits out of a couple of police. Sure they deserved it, course they did, it was f'in great. Whatever.

I'll keep banging on about it until you apologise for posting the vid. So I expect to be doing it for a while.

Whereas you were the idiot who hoped ticket price increases had priced hooligans out. Yeah, that's the solution to hooliganism; get rid of the working classes, whether they're guilty or not...

 

[Montgomery Burns]

Anyone who disagrees with him gets mentioned for abit. Shame he could not of done this more with the FA watch he might of got somewhere.
Saturday was another good reason for me to despise the police so I expect him to still be moaning all week.

Not wanting to speak for Montgomery Burns but I suspect it is less about you disagreeing with him and more about the fact that your posts when it comes to the subject of football fan violence and the police are an absolute embarrassment. You want to know why the police act like dicks and go around twatting football fans, it's because they assume we are all like you. I don't condone the behaviour of the police a lot of the time and have made that very clear but when I read the shit you churn out on here, I can see why they end up doing it.

You've read me 100% correctly Lancet and your post is absolutely spot on.

I abhor violence full stop, whether it be football violence, domestic violence, generally yobbish behaviour or whatever. And I cannot stand it being glorified by little boys with no life experience or idiots who are old enough to know better.

If I have a problem with someone in real life, and thankfully it's not often, we talk it through in an intelligent and adult manner. Most people are able to do that. Generally that approach works; you don't have to shout and spit and punch to get what you want. Brains are there to be used.

One thing I've always told my kids is to treat others as you want to be treated yourself - I got that from my Mum and Dad, as did most people of my generation. As with give authority respect, but always stand up for what you believe is right - which you were doing the other night re police violence, which I understand absolutely despite my light hearted contribution which probably didn't help! They are accountable after all. These are simple, common sense values which we need because as a society we all have to live together and we all need each other. It's not rocket science.

Stuff like scottyboi puts out shouts of gross immaturity and possibly a dysfunctional upbringing - but it doesn't have to be like that. I came out of the East Stand with my daughter at the end of the game on Saturday near where the away fans were and walked up towards where the B of the Bang was. On the right hand side was the newly erected fence and then the horses, and a large crowd was gathered watching the police cuff some guy who was on the floor. You could cut the atmosphere with a knife. Were we attracted to the crowd - no way - we walked on, over to Asda. For a lot of people, it was a simple choice to get caught up in some of that stuff we saw on the vid, not all obviously, but many were drawn to it. The types like scottyboi I would imagine.

The sport I love was on its knees in the 80's and I don't want it to go back to anything like that. That's why it's important to speak up and against the antics of the mob and all those who glorify them.

I'll stop now as I'm sounding like Nick Clegg.

 

[Scottyboi]

I ain't apologising for fuck all you bitter old man.

 

[mancityvstoke]

One thing I will say Monty is not everyone had an upbringing and lovely parents like you had the fortune to have.

I'm not using it as an excuse for being violent but if, like me, you had a Father who attacked you with a hammer on Xmas day because you were playing music too loud and smashed your room up including your record player and you had violence like that on a regular basis it made you slightly angry and more prone to violence yourself.

It wasn't like the Waltons in our house.

I'm a man who avoids trouble now but in the 70's I was a violent 'orrible cant.

I watch videos like that and cringe as I regret a lot of what I did. I also know that back in those days it was so very fucking different. Very scary at times too. Sometimes I wanted to run but couldn't because it would have been worse if you did.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

How do I fit into this scheme of 'pricing out the lower classes'? I'm working class, come from an odd family, to say the least , yet I've never so much as looked at an opposition fan in a menacing way and I frown on violence generally.

Does this attitude of mine mean I'm not working class after all? Or should I be banned just in case, because with my genes who knows, maybe my son will one day be the top dog of City's firm?

The working classes may bring some trouble but to be fair, on Saturday I happened to react to Uniteds winner by stating 'fuck me, the twats', I didn't shout it, I simply said it loud enough for me to hear yet I managed to attract a few dirty looks from gimmers in the East level 3 who sat through the match eating crisps and taking photos, generally anything but watching the game. Actually, I'm a hypocrite, because when one of the silver haired toffs looked at me, coupled with the ginger cunts last gasp winner, I'd happily have crushed the posh twat into a tiny ball, put him in his wicker hamper and fucking stamped on it.

Point proven.

Ban the working classes.

On another note, way too many foreigners at City these days. A bloke sat about 5 seats from me was actually black! That's worse than working class! Working class people are hooligans but this guy was clearly a 'Gangsta', a rapper and I'm shocked he didn't shoot anyone. As for the women behind, I'm just glad she didn't have a period all over my head or something. Ghastly creatures women.

MEN! POSH MEN!

 

[Montgomery Burns]

Afraid not young man, because you were the idiot who posted up that youtube vid on Friday (since deleted) which showed a mob of yobs kicking the wotsits out of a couple of police. Sure they deserved it, course they did, it was f'in great. Whatever.

I'll keep banging on about it until you apologise for posting the vid. So I expect to be doing it for a while.

Whereas you were the idiot who hoped ticket price increases had priced hooligans out. Yeah, that's the solution to hooliganism; get rid of the working classes, whether they're guilty or not...

I apologise for that comment which was made in character as old Monty Burns in the heat of the moment when under attack from various sources - a release the hounds kind of moment! Of course it's not the answer and if we get £10 tickets and an expanded ground then great, because that's good for the club, for the sport and for the supporters.

But it's not too much to expect that people behave themselves, that I can go to a ground without fear of getting my head kicked in just for supporting the team I love, which was the main reason I stopped going to away games many years ago.

The answer to hooliganism - well compared to the 80's, it's largely been solved in the grounds at least, with better policing and stewarding, CCTV and so on. Outside the grounds is another thing altogether, which is much more difficult to police, but tell me this - why can't young men/boys behave themselves? As one of the posters who is in the army and does tours in Afghanistan said, if they were over there we'd soon see how hard they were. It's easy to be Billy Big Bollocks when you've got all your mates around you, each one egging the other on. It's nothing to do with being working class or to do with class at all; it's to do with how you're brought up. At the risk of doing the three Yorkshireman sketch on Monty Python Jesus Christ we had nothing when I was growing up - I guess it'd be against someones Uman Rights to have an outside bog these days - but whilst we had nothing we knew how to behave ourselves, that's one thing our parents taught us. Right and wrong and all that.

But me, I don't want to see the 80's violence returning for one moment, hence my stance.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

Whereas you were the idiot who hoped ticket price increases had priced hooligans out. Yeah, that's the solution to hooliganism; get rid of the working classes, whether they're guilty or not...

I apologise for that comment which was made in character as old Monty Burns in the heat of the moment when under attack from various sources - a release the hounds kind of moment! Of course it's not the answer and if we get £10 tickets and an expanded ground then great, because that's good for the club, for the sport and for the supporters.

But it's not too much to expect that people behave themselves, that I can go to a ground without fear of getting my head kicked in just for supporting the team I love, which was the main reason I stopped going to away games many years ago.

The answer to hooliganism - well compared to the 80's, it's largely been solved in the grounds at least, with better policing and stewarding, CCTV and so on. Outside the grounds is another thing altogether, which is much more difficult to police, but tell me this - why can't young men/boys behave themselves? As one of the posters who is in the army and does tours in Afghanistan said, if they were over there we'd soon see how hard they were. It's easy to be Billy Big Bollocks when you've got all your mates around you, each one egging the other on. It's nothing to do with being working class or to do with class at all; it's to do with how you're brought up. At the risk of doing the three Yorkshireman sketch on Monty Python Jesus Christ we had nothing when I was growing up - I guess it'd be against someones Uman Rights to have an outside bog these days - but whilst we had nothing we knew how to behave ourselves, that's one thing our parents taught us. Right and wrong and all that.

But me, I don't want to see the 80's violence returning for one moment, hence my stance.

I'm a proper working class scrubber but I'm opposed to violence generally and I can proudly inform you that I've never been involved in an act of random violence.

Pricks are pricks, Income doesn't change that.

 

[Montgomery Burns]

One thing I will say Monty is not everyone had an upbringing and lovely parents like you had the fortune to have.

I'm not using it as an excuse for being violent but if, like me, you had a Father who attacked you with a hammer on Xmas day because you were playing music too loud and smashed your room up including your record player and you had violence like that on a regular basis it made you slightly angry and more prone to violence yourself.

It wasn't like the Waltons in our house.

I'm a man who avoids trouble now but in the 70's I was a violent 'orrible cant.

I watch videos like that and cringe as I regret a lot of what I did. I also know that back in those days it was so very fucking different. Very scary at times too. Sometimes I wanted to run but couldn't because it would have been worse if you did.

I realise that mate - it wasn't the Waltons in our house either believe me, although it wasn't the Grimleys either although the old man did/does have a touch of Baz now I come to think of it.

Of course people are conditioned by their circumstances/surroundings/ upbringing etc but if I slip back into Monty mode about the music - no. I better not!

But you've changed as you say, so have I. I never wanted the upbringing (ruled by fear) I had for my kids and neither did my brother - the mould has to be broken somewhere, sometime, that's all I'm trying to say.

 

[bluemoonmcfc]

I've been PM'd your age so now I know that i'll cut you some slack. One day, just after your last pube sprouts, you'll probably look back at people like those dicks in the video and you will have the same outlook on it as I do. Once again to clarify, I know all clubs have true hard lads who will actually fight. I have had the pleasure/misfortune, (however you want to look at it), to be introduced to one or two of them before now, and listening to their stories and from seeing things outside Maine Road, I know they exist. In opposition to that though I also know we have a load of wannabe hard men like in that video, and I can't take people like that seriously and to be honest I think they're just wankers. If you are one of those, carry on doing what you're doing until you become unstuck one day and all those 'lads' are no-where to be seen because they've shit it, and ran. After that, you'll realise who is who, and who just talks out of their arse. Sorry for calling you a nobhead earlier too, young and dumb or not, you're still a blue.

fair enough for appologising and im sorry for calling you a muppet but like i said there was obviously trouble brewing no matter what the score simply because of last time but then the last goal sealed it.

if we had nobody there to stand up to them then they would have run around our city our club and our pubs taking the piss because thats what they are like but instead we had people there to stand up to them. even if half the people there would have ran off atleast they was there. you get your nutters at the front that want to do the job and then the more people behind them the better

Exactly. It's our fucking ground so it doesn't matter who you are, that you stayed after last time is good enough. If 10 hard men came down my estate kicking off there might be 10 hard men there to meet them...but you'd expect there to be at least 50 others there standing their ground too.

 

[Montgomery Burns]

I apologise for that comment which was made in character as old Monty Burns in the heat of the moment when under attack from various sources - a release the hounds kind of moment! Of course it's not the answer and if we get £10 tickets and an expanded ground then great, because that's good for the club, for the sport and for the supporters.

But it's not too much to expect that people behave themselves, that I can go to a ground without fear of getting my head kicked in just for supporting the team I love, which was the main reason I stopped going to away games many years ago.

The answer to hooliganism - well compared to the 80's, it's largely been solved in the grounds at least, with better policing and stewarding, CCTV and so on. Outside the grounds is another thing altogether, which is much more difficult to police, but tell me this - why can't young men/boys behave themselves? As one of the posters who is in the army and does tours in Afghanistan said, if they were over there we'd soon see how hard they were. It's easy to be Billy Big Bollocks when you've got all your mates around you, each one egging the other on. It's nothing to do with being working class or to do with class at all; it's to do with how you're brought up. At the risk of doing the three Yorkshireman sketch on Monty Python Jesus Christ we had nothing when I was growing up - I guess it'd be against someones Uman Rights to have an outside bog these days - but whilst we had nothing we knew how to behave ourselves, that's one thing our parents taught us. Right and wrong and all that.

But me, I don't want to see the 80's violence returning for one moment, hence my stance.

I'm a proper working class scrubber but I'm opposed to violence generally and I can proudly inform you that I've never been involved in an act of random violence.

Pricks are pricks, Income doesn't change that.

Precisely. Some of the biggest pricks are the ones with loads o' money. They might not steal your money by robbing your house but they may well have done it in a different way - bankers anybody?

Money don't buy you manners that's for sure.<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:28 pm --<br /><br />

I ain't apologising for fuck all you bitter old man.

I didn't expect you too. No more than you expect me to stop reminding everyone that you are the disgusting yob who proudly posted up a youtube vid which showed a mob attacking two police, one a woman IIRC. Who caused one Bluemoon member, Bluetel, a copper, to resign from the board in disgust at what you did.

See I've done it again! Come back with another witty retort and I'll do it again as well. As often as I want. All it takes is time and I've got plenty of that.

 

[Skashion]

Whereas you were the idiot who hoped ticket price increases had priced hooligans out. Yeah, that's the solution to hooliganism; get rid of the working classes, whether they're guilty or not...

I apologise for that comment which was made in character as old Monty Burns in the heat of the moment when under attack from various sources - a release the hounds kind of moment! Of course it's not the answer and if we get £10 tickets and an expanded ground then great, because that's good for the club, for the sport and for the supporters.

But it's not too much to expect that people behave themselves, that I can go to a ground without fear of getting my head kicked in just for supporting the team I love, which was the main reason I stopped going to away games many years ago.

The answer to hooliganism - well compared to the 80's, it's largely been solved in the grounds at least, with better policing and stewarding, CCTV and so on. Outside the grounds is another thing altogether, which is much more difficult to police, but tell me this - why can't young men/boys behave themselves? As one of the posters who is in the army and does tours in Afghanistan said, if they were over there we'd soon see how hard they were. It's easy to be Billy Big Bollocks when you've got all your mates around you, each one egging the other on. It's nothing to do with being working class or to do with class at all; it's to do with how you're brought up. At the risk of doing the three Yorkshireman sketch on Monty Python Jesus Christ we had nothing when I was growing up - I guess it'd be against someones Uman Rights to have an outside bog these days - but whilst we had nothing we knew how to behave ourselves, that's one thing our parents taught us. Right and wrong and all that.

But me, I don't want to see the 80's violence returning for one moment, hence my stance.

Fair play to you for apologising for it and stating that you'd like cheaper ticket prices.

I've got a question for you though with regards to young boys/men behaving themselves. When I was sixteen, I couldn't get a ticket to the last game at Maine Road but I came anyway because I wanted to be there. Strange though it may seem to some, I had a lot of affection for Maine Road. Affection I still don't have for Eastlands. Anyway, I ended up outside the ground with a few hundred people and we made a party of it. Chanting, singing, having some drink (yes, underage drinking in my case that is) etc. Great laugh. After the end of the game we decided to go to the gate to see if they would let us, which they didn't. Some of the people there decided to try and break in. I wasn't one of them incidentally. The police then intervened and gradually pushed us back towards Claremont with some people throwing missiles at the police. Again, I wasn't one of them but I was part of the group caught up in it. The group split up before we got to Claremont and ran down the numerous back alleys on either side and attempted to get back to the gate by going around the police line. I was amongst those trying to get back to the gate. A dog handler, on his own, prevents me and a friend, on our own, from going back to the gate. I had a few words about it being the last game and they should let us in etc. He told us to do one. Then me and my friend just walked away and that was the end of that. Should I be banned for life for being a violent football hooligan? That's the only 'incident' (which it barely was) I've ever been involved in by the way. Hopefully my otherwise unblemished record will count in my favour. I await your judgement with trepidation.

 

[Scottyboi]

I'm a proper working class scrubber but I'm opposed to violence generally and I can proudly inform you that I've never been involved in an act of random violence.

Pricks are pricks, Income doesn't change that.

Precisely. Some of the biggest pricks are the ones with loads o' money. They might not steal your money by robbing your house but they may well have done it in a different way - bankers anybody?

Money don't buy you manners that's for sure.

-- Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:28 pm --

I ain't apologising for fuck all you bitter old man.

I didn't expect you too. No more than you expect me to stop reminding everyone that you are the disgusting yob who proudly posted up a youtube vid which showed a mob attacking two police, one a woman IIRC. Who caused one Bluemoon member, Bluetel, a copper, to resign from the board in disgust at what you did.

See I've done it again! Come back with another witty retort and I'll do it again as well. As often as I want. All it takes is time and I've got plenty of that.

It was on Bravo both coppers were men so stop chatting shit cocker. And both were ok afterwards. Nice try at shit stirring.

 

[paul calfs tash]

Anyone who boasts about causing trouble at City games should fuck off to the lower leagues where they still enjoy that sort of shit. You are not welcome and the path City are taking you will not be missed. In fact you will be replaced by people who don't feel the need to act like a complete bellend at matches.

 

[Montgomery Burns]

I apologise for that comment which was made in character as old Monty Burns in the heat of the moment when under attack from various sources - a release the hounds kind of moment! Of course it's not the answer and if we get £10 tickets and an expanded ground then great, because that's good for the club, for the sport and for the supporters.

But it's not too much to expect that people behave themselves, that I can go to a ground without fear of getting my head kicked in just for supporting the team I love, which was the main reason I stopped going to away games many years ago.

The answer to hooliganism - well compared to the 80's, it's largely been solved in the grounds at least, with better policing and stewarding, CCTV and so on. Outside the grounds is another thing altogether, which is much more difficult to police, but tell me this - why can't young men/boys behave themselves? As one of the posters who is in the army and does tours in Afghanistan said, if they were over there we'd soon see how hard they were. It's easy to be Billy Big Bollocks when you've got all your mates around you, each one egging the other on. It's nothing to do with being working class or to do with class at all; it's to do with how you're brought up. At the risk of doing the three Yorkshireman sketch on Monty Python Jesus Christ we had nothing when I was growing up - I guess it'd be against someones Uman Rights to have an outside bog these days - but whilst we had nothing we knew how to behave ourselves, that's one thing our parents taught us. Right and wrong and all that.

But me, I don't want to see the 80's violence returning for one moment, hence my stance.

Fair play to you for apologising for it and stating that you'd like cheaper ticket prices.

I've got a question for you though with regards to young boys/men behaving themselves. When I was sixteen, I couldn't get a ticket to the last game at Maine Road but I came anyway because I wanted to be there. Strange though it may seem to some, I had a lot of affection for Maine Road. Affection I still don't have for Eastlands. Anyway, I ended up outside the ground with a few hundred people and we made a party of it. Chanting, singing, having some drink (yes, underage drinking in my case that is) etc. Great laugh. After the end of the game we decided to go to the gate to see if they would let us, which they didn't. Some of the people there decided to try and break in. I wasn't one of them incidentally. The police then intervened and gradually pushed us back towards Claremont with some people throwing missiles at the police. Again, I wasn't one of them but I was part of the group caught up in it. The group split up before we got to Claremont and ran down the numerous back alleys on either side and attempted to get back to the gate by going around the police line. I was amongst those trying to get back to the gate. A dog handler, on his own, prevents me and a friend, on our own, from going back to the gate. I had a few words about it being the last game and they should let us in etc. He told us to do one. Then me and my friend just walked away and that was the end of that. Should I be banned for life for being a violent football hooligan? That's the only 'incident' (which it barely was) I've ever been involved in by the way. Hopefully my otherwise unblemished record will count in my favour. I await your judgement with trepidation.

Thanks.

You have every reason to be in trepidation as I'm in Monty Burns mode right now so am slipping back into unreasonableness and meglomania. I'm just about to press the button that releases the trap door that will send you hurtling towards ......

No, back to me.

In its literal sense from what you've described there's no reason for you to have been arrested - the policeman had the chance if he had chosen to do so, but for what? Your unblemished record remains!

I guess you're maybe trying to link the events you describe to the scenes outside the ground on Saturday (apologies if I'm wrong) but they seem to me to be on an entirely different level, as you've described it - although having witnessed neither properly it's difficult to say.

People do daft things when they're growing up, it's part of the learning process after all. Some things worse than others. But there's a world of difference between doing something daft once or twice and being a bad 'un - don't ask me to describe a bad 'un please!

I'm not trying to come up with a solution for world peace here or say everyone has got to be Mr or Mrs Wonderful - I got dragged into all this on either Thursday or Friday when scottyboi put up hopefully his now infamous Youtube vid which showed two coppers getting a kicking and wasn't it great. That's what started all of this off for me and whilst I don't regret standing up against up for what I believe I must say it's a darn sight easier keeping quiet!

Regards anyway from an embittered Old Git!<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:54 pm --<br /><br />

Precisely. Some of the biggest pricks are the ones with loads o' money. They might not steal your money by robbing your house but they may well have done it in a different way - bankers anybody?

Money don't buy you manners that's for sure.

-- Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:28 pm --



I didn't expect you too. No more than you expect me to stop reminding everyone that you are the disgusting yob who proudly posted up a youtube vid which showed a mob attacking two police, one a woman IIRC. Who caused one Bluemoon member, Bluetel, a copper, to resign from the board in disgust at what you did.

See I've done it again! Come back with another witty retort and I'll do it again as well. As often as I want. All it takes is time and I've got plenty of that.

It was on Bravo both coppers were men so stop chatting shit cocker. And both were ok afterwards. Nice try at shit stirring.

I'm pleased they were - physically at least. What about mentally though - don't suppose you care for one moment, since they're the Filth after all. I mean, you didn't post it because you thought it was terrible did you?

You might have got rid of Bluetel but I'm not going anyway - so I'll continue to remind people what an unpleasant yob you are.

 

[Scottyboi]

lmao infamous video? its been out for years. Stop playing the martyr its tiring.
Not posting on this subject again now but feel free to carry on.
If it helps you feel better I watched it again just for a laugh.(joking!!!!)

In F.A watch we trust!

 

[paul calfs tash]

lmao infamous video? its been out for years. Stop playing the martyr its tiring.
Not posting on this subject again now but feel free to carry on.
If it helps you feel better I watched it again just for a laugh.(joking!!!!)

In F.A watch we trust!

You should promise not to attend another City game instead.

 

[Montgomery Burns]

lmao infamous video? its been out for years. Stop playing the martyr its tiring.

For you maybe, but not for me!

Not posting on this subject again now but feel free to carry on.

I will!

In F.A watch we trust!

We might have been able to do something if only you'd have been bothered to help out. Your letter writing skills could have proved invaluable.

Better to have tried and failed than not be arsed about it in the first place.