GMP performance

Another tweet from Maggie Oliver below. She’s not happy with Burnham. Sounds like he has some explaining to do. Maybe it isn’t all the fault of those pesky Tories after all:

If you take a look at this report, published one year ago, you can see why she’s not happy, and it has little to do with them not reporting crimes.

https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/media/2569/operation_augusta_january_2020_digital_final.pdf

Its a long read, but even after 10 or so pages you become thoroughly disgusted with GMP and MCC.
 
I follow Maggie Oliver on Twitter (the ex-detective who was the whistleblower for the Rochdale abuse scandal) and she's been saying that they're not fit for purpose for years. Anyway, she's not surprised by the news.


That is the sort of lady that should be an MP or in a position of Govt influence.She doesnt have her head up her arse,she doesnt put up with any shit,and she appears to get things done.
 
That is the sort of lady that should be an MP or in a position of Govt influence.She doesnt have her head up her arse,she doesnt put up with any shit,and she appears to get things done.
It's pretty telling that she felt she could make more of an impact on child abuse and sex trafficking by starting a charity rather than staying in her job as a detective with GMP.
 
If you take a look at this report, published one year ago, you can see why she’s not happy, and it has little to do with them not reporting crimes.

https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/media/2569/operation_augusta_january_2020_digital_final.pdf

Its a long read, but even after 10 or so pages you become thoroughly disgusted with GMP and MCC.
It's horrendous. I remember Maggie talking about one case where (and I might get the exact details wrong) there was a 14 year old girl who had become pregnant to one of her abusers. You'd think that would be a pretty open and shut case for rape, but they charged him with a lesser crime because it would be easier to get a conviction (I don't know how much easier it can get), and he ended up with a pretty mediocre sentence as a result. Apparently it's pretty common in these cases to not go for a rape conviction because it's easier to get them on some other charges, and that's when you end up with those outrage-inducing sentences of a few years for someone who basically ran a child trafficking ring.
 
It's horrendous. I remember Maggie talking about one case where (and I might get the exact details wrong) there was a 14 year old girl who had become pregnant to one of her abusers. You'd think that would be a pretty open and shut case for rape, but they charged him with a lesser crime because it would be easier to get a conviction (I don't know how much easier it can get), and he ended up with a pretty mediocre sentence as a result. Apparently it's pretty common in these cases to not go for a rape conviction because it's easier to get them on some other charges, and that's when you end up with those outrage-inducing sentences of a few years for someone who basically ran a child trafficking ring.
I don’t know if you read the report, but it stemmed from the death of a teenager in care who was being given heroin by a 50 year old man.
She had complained to her social worker that he was injecting her. Couple of months later she was dead from heroin. He was charged and found guilty of injecting her and got 3 and a half years. He got off with manslaughter due to their ’ineptitude’.

Both the Council and GMP took several months to provide the requested information to the review team and some notes of high level meetings were ‘lost’.
 
It’s Andy Burnham, it’s part of the Mayor’s role now.
Well, he's not had his hand on the tiller, has he? I wonder if he gets a double salary. Have all the PCs been subsumed into regional mayoral remits. I always thought that the job of PC was manufactured to give some old politico a well-paid sinecure, but then I was born a cynic.
 
It's horrendous. I remember Maggie talking about one case where (and I might get the exact details wrong) there was a 14 year old girl who had become pregnant to one of her abusers. You'd think that would be a pretty open and shut case for rape, but they charged him with a lesser crime because it would be easier to get a conviction (I don't know how much easier it can get), and he ended up with a pretty mediocre sentence as a result. Apparently it's pretty common in these cases to not go for a rape conviction because it's easier to get them on some other charges, and that's when you end up with those outrage-inducing sentences of a few years for someone who basically ran a child trafficking ring.
You dont think this has anything to do with the CPS? Or this doesn't fit your viewpoint? CPS decide the charges for these offences-not the police.
 
I don’t know if you read the report, but it stemmed from the death of a teenager in care who was being given heroin by a 50 year old man.
She had complained to her social worker that he was injecting her. Couple of months later she was dead from heroin. He was charged and found guilty of injecting her and got 3 and a half years. He got off with manslaughter due to their ’ineptitude’.

Both the Council and GMP took several months to provide the requested information to the review team and some notes of high level meetings were ‘lost’.
No responsibility on Social Care or her family?
 

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