Greater Manchester Politics Thread

Tb1981 said:
I Walked past my local Wetherspoons the other night and saw 5 middle aged (50plus) blokes having a pint around one table
The fact they are clearly not from same household and not giving the slightest fuck just makes my blood boil.

Andy burnham is basically chasing more money (rightly or wrongly) for fair reasons but surely someone of importance locally needs to call out the huge huge numbers of people taking the piss
It’s fine wanting to be re-elected as they all do but they are all asleep at the wheel
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Its OK they were in Wetherspoons and Tim Martin says you can't catch Covid in there.
 
Tb1981 said:
I Walked past my local Wetherspoons the other night and saw 5 middle aged (50plus) blokes having a pint around one table
The fact they are clearly not from same household and not giving the slightest fuck just makes my blood boil.

Andy burnham is basically chasing more money (rightly or wrongly) for fair reasons but surely someone of importance locally needs to call out the huge huge numbers of people taking the piss
It’s fine wanting to be re-elected as they all do but they are all asleep at the wheel
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Only my limited experience, but is seems largely to be the same folk that have been behaving as if covid didn't exist since easter that now have an issue with restrictions. All the self awareness of scousers, which perhaps also explains why Liverpool is riddled with covid.
 
People are a few weeks away from finding out what the people they 'lent' thier vote to are made of. Here is a taster;



"ever-ending freebies"
 
Tb1981 said:
I Walked past my local Wetherspoons the other night and saw 5 middle aged (50plus) blokes having a pint around one table
The fact they are clearly not from same household and not giving the slightest fuck just makes my blood boil.

Andy burnham is basically chasing more money (rightly or wrongly) for fair reasons but surely someone of importance locally needs to call out the huge huge numbers of people taking the piss
It’s fine wanting to be re-elected as they all do but they are all asleep at the wheel
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None of the issues you raise have anything to do with Andy Burnham as far as I can see. 1) it's the pubs responsibility to sperate tables, I've seen it done but 2) Regardless of Burnham's position, Wetherspoons would be allowed to be open anyway as oubs that sell food are to remain open under Tier 3

Burnham has also repeatedly advised people to follow the law and Greater Manchester would follow the law if Tier 3 was imposed

It is a Wetherspoons issue this, not a policy one
 
Fame Monster said:
Jenrick's one of the worst Tories for me and he should have been sacked after breaching lockdown. I thought it was odd at the time that not much was made of his breach but the left-wing papers must have known about Cummings, and seem to have made the strategic decision to go after him more than Jenrick. Bad move imo - I don't think Jenrick would have survived the Cummings storm.
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He's scum, the sort of MP from the 18th/19th century who treats the poor/unfortunate with disdain and disgust. The number of controversies is unbelievable, and what he did with the Isle of Dogs housing scandel makes me want to fkin murder him. Absolute scum, because thats only what he thinks of the rest of the poor population

From wiki:

Unlawful approval of Westferry housing development[edit]​

In May 2020, Jenrick accepted that his approval of a £1 billion luxury housing development on Westferry Road, Isle of Dogs had been unlawful. The 1,500-home development was proposed by Richard Desmond, a Conservative Party donor, former porn publisher and owner of Northern & Shell. The government's planning inspector had previously advised against the scheme, as it delivered an inadequate amount of affordable housing and as the height of the tower would be detrimental to the character of the area.[33] However, Jenrick approved the scheme on 14 January, knowing that an approval by that date would enable Richard Desmond to avoid having to pay a council-imposed infrastructure levy of between £30 and £50 million, which could have been used for funding schools and health clinics.[34][4] Tower Hamlets council pursued legal action against Jenrick, arguing that his decision showed bias towards Desmond. It was also reported that Jenrick helped Desmond save an additional £106m by allowing affordable housing at 21%, instead of enforcing the local and London-wide planning policy requirement of 35%.[35][5]

Jenrick has maintained that although the decision was unlawful, there was no "actual bias".[36] Desmond, whose company had donated to the Conservative Party in 2017,[34] made a further personal donation to the party shortly after the approval was given. Andrew Wood, the leader of the Conservative group on Tower Hamlets Council, resigned because of his concerns over the property deal.[37] The planning decision will now be re-determined by a different government minister. In conceding the move did show "apparent bias", Jenrick effectively blocked the judicial review, which originally prevented documents between his department and the developer from being made public.[38] Mayor of Tower Hamlets John Biggs said: "We may never know what emails and memos the secretary of state received before making his decision and what influence they had, but his reluctance to disclose them speaks volumes".[39]

In June 2020 Desmond told The Sunday Times he had lobbied Jenrick at a Conservative Party fundraising dinner held at the Savoy in November. He said he had showed the minister "three or four minutes" of a promotional video for the Westferry Printworks development on his mobile phone, adding "he got the gist".[40] The controversial interview was followed by a Labour Party opposition day motion debate in the House of Commons on 24 June, which forced Jenrick into releasing all "relevant" documents surrounding his dealings with Desmond, including private text messages between him and the developer that show discussion of the then live planning application beginning the night of the fundraising dinner.[41] One of the emails revealed that MHCLG officials were being pressured by Jenrick to work out how to overrule the government's own planning inspector so he could approve the plans before any increase in the Tower Hamlets council community infrastructure levy (CIL), which Desmond would have had to pay.[35] That the minister did not disclose to his department his potential conflict of interest until a month after his dinner has raised concern.[42]
 
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