Gregg Wallace

[I'm With Stupid]

Ive got to disagree. How can they vet people who become twats after becoming famous in the way that this bloke did, and in the way that lots have? They become knobheads after they are famous. The calling out of these people has to depend upon who they are working with at the time, thats how all work places function, no? Otherwise how can managers deal with it. Vetting people before they get on the telly is great, if that can even happen which is probably word of mouth like any job. Dealing with misconduct as it happens is what any work place managers are for. If they arent told, what are they to do? Waiting for a pile on years after the event serves nobody.

And I think Gregg Wallace is a sad **** wannabe someone pretty dislikable Cockney ex barrow boy wanker who is the walking embodiment of a mid life crisis. Hes a twat, even before this, as proved by the cringy interview we all took the piss out of at the start of this thread.

This certainly isnt a BBC enabled problem, as if they look for these people and then cover up for them. The notion is ridiculous

In theory, it'd should be up to the director, producer and other senior staff to spot behaviour like this and report it. But it's worth mentioning that often programmes aren't made directly by the BBC. Masterchef is made by Endemol, so the BBC likely don't have much oversight there, and so unless something major happens (Jeremy Clarkson punching a producer, for example) any complaints are likely to remain inside a production company that has an interest in keeping things quiet. And like a lot of other competitive industries, like music or film, so many people want to work in TV that it's ripe for abuse, because no-one wants to be seen as a trouble maker when they're all on short-term contracts. There are huge incentives to just put up with shit.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

There’s been mention of Bake off and remarks on that. No one called out about it?
Could it just be that the other channels can do/say what they want? Only the BBC is held accountable?
I am not condoning Wallace or anyone else and as I have never watched Bake off I wouldn’t know. However there is one programme on 4 or 5 where they are professional bakers and make the most elaborately decorated specimens and the innuendos on that is very noticeable. No one has ever called that programme out.
Just an observation.

Are you comparing the script for a TV show to what people are saying off camera during production? That's like someone working on a Carry On film complaining that there is innuendo. If Sid James is perving on a woman as part of the script, that's very different to him looking through a peephole into your dressing room off set.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Tomorrows Times front page says the BBC knew about Wallace in 2017 when he was warned about his behaviour after complaints from celebrities on Masterchef.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Are you comparing the script for a TV show to what people are saying off camera during production? That's like someone working on a Carry On film complaining that there is innuendo. If Sid James is perving on a woman as part of the script, that's very different to him looking through a peephole into your dressing room off set.

No I’m not as I don’t actually know what was said off screen in either show. In fact I don’t know what was said onscreen either as I don’t really watch either show. I have watched a few episodes of Master Chef but never watched Bake Off.
I was asking a question not making a judgement.
I was asking if it was one rule for the BBC and one for other channels. Please don’t tell me what I am thinking. :-)
:-)

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Usually these things do get called out at the time but the person who the accusations are against are so powerful nothing gets done. You can also bet that for every person brave enough to take the risk and make a complaint there will be plenty of others wanting to but they are too scared to do so.
Looking at a huge corporation like the BBC i would think there is a fair possibility people in positions of power do deliberately employ a few people of dubious character. A bit like Hollywood a lot will pee in the same pot.
That power corrupts and they start to feel they are untouchable. I'd say it's getting harder to cover such behaviour up these days but I've no doubt it still goes on and always will.

There is no way on earth that Gregg Flipping Wallace was seen as a powerful person within the BBC, come off it. He is no more powerful than the toff herbert with the scarf who used to kick his leg out at the end of Bargain Hunt or the lady who picks fucked old chairs out of a skip and gives it to someone who puts new upholstery on it. Nonsense view

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Tomorrows Times front page says the BBC knew about Wallace in 2017 when he was warned about his behaviour after complaints from celebrities on Masterchef.

Nothing like News International running a story about a cover up at a media organisation, is there?

 

[I'm With Stupid]

There is no way on earth that Gregg Flipping Wallace was seen as a powerful person within the BBC, come off it. He is no more powerful than the toff herbert with the scarf who used to kick his leg out at the end of Bargain Hunt or the lady who picks fucked old chairs out of a skip and gives it to someone who puts new upholstery on it. Nonsense view

Sort of. But the issue you have with talent is that you can't make the show without them (which is different with stuff with multiple presenters like Bargain Hunt or Homes Under the Hammer, where you can easily bin a few episodes and get someone else in). When you've spent months getting a production crew together for a documentary, done all of the research, arranged everything, it's then a big call to shut the whole thing down and have to reshoot everything because of an allegation against your presenter, especially when it's nothing criminal, just bad behaviour. At best, you're likely to grin and bear it and then just not work with them again in the future, because the financial incentives are just too high (all of which doesn't explain things he's be presenting for years, of course).

The other thing you have to question is whether he even knows he's done anything wrong. Usually if you do something inappropriate at work that upsets someone, there'd be a disciplinary process and you'd have a chance to make amends. But what are the chances that everyone just laughs along with the famous person, even if they're a bit uncomfortable?

 

[paulchapo]

There is no way on earth that Gregg Flipping Wallace was seen as a powerful person within the BBC, come off it. He is no more powerful than the toff herbert with the scarf who used to kick his leg out at the end of Bargain Hunt or the lady who picks fucked old chairs out of a skip and gives it to someone who puts new upholstery on it. Nonsense view

It's not a nonsense view. For reasons unfathomable to myself, Bake off or whatever it was called, was a huge hit. Wallace was the face of it. Even myself who never willingly watched it associated the programme with him. The BBC are publicly funded but I'm sure the programme and spin offs associated with it made him an important and therefore powerful figure. They wouldn't want anybody upsetting the apple cart therefore complaints would be either brushed off or swept under the carpet.

 

[paulchapo]

 

[lefty goldblatt]

Wallace has no power at the BBC, per se, but what he does have, is power over young runners/interns (who will more than likely be female) that work on his programmes. If he has been using inappropriate language in these instances, hopefully, the BBC and other broadcasters will never touch the irritating fucker again.

The thing that hacks me off though, is hard nosed political interviewer Kirsty Wark, getting all concerned, 13 years on. You call out politicians ON THE SPOT for impropriety, do it for all. Oh, and Rod Stewart getting personal, about his wife's cooking credentials being critised. I can't imagine that he's never given his backing singers a dressing down, after a poor concert, eh?