Gustavo

[Blueband Brother]

At this moment in time he is.

Doesn't matter whether he is or isn't. I'd rather have Rodwell and let him develop into a better player than Gustavo will ever be. I rate Rodwell very highly, he's still young, he needs game time to improve and shoving him further down the pecking order for someone who is barely (if he even is at all - it is very debatable) better than him when we already have Fernandinho Yaya and loads of other cover in this area of the pitch, makes no sense.

It's the same reason I want to see Nastasić remain as first choice centre half. At 19 (he's now 20) he was the best teenage centre half I'd ever seen. He's not anywhere near his peak yet but he will only reach his absolute best at his peak if he plays games while he's developing.

It isn't about Rodwell.

Rodwell will get plenty games regardless.

Gustavo is better than Garcia, Barry, Milner and Razak. That's what it's about.

Are you genuinely saying you wouldn't rather see Gustavo in the squad than Razak and Garcia?

-- Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:14 pm --

At this moment in time he is.

I disagree. Rodwell has had fitness problems so there have not been enough opportunities to really impress. I believe he is a better player with a wider skill set but Gustavo is more experienced.

What are these skills Gustavo lacks that Rodwell has?

Rodwell is more versatile for one. He can play as CB, midfield and very effective as a box to box player. Gustavo is not that versatile and so limited in what he can contribute.

As midfielder, Rodwell is stronger in tackling and athletic bursts, quicker, and have better shooting and passing technique and ability.

Rodwell is also still developing and is going to get even better.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Doesn't matter whether he is or isn't. I'd rather have Rodwell and let him develop into a better player than Gustavo will ever be. I rate Rodwell very highly, he's still young, he needs game time to improve and shoving him further down the pecking order for someone who is barely (if he even is at all - it is very debatable) better than him when we already have Fernandinho Yaya and loads of other cover in this area of the pitch, makes no sense.

It's the same reason I want to see Nastasić remain as first choice centre half. At 19 (he's now 20) he was the best teenage centre half I'd ever seen. He's not anywhere near his peak yet but he will only reach his absolute best at his peak if he plays games while he's developing.

It isn't about Rodwell.

Rodwell will get plenty games regardless.

Gustavo is better than Garcia, Barry, Milner and Razak. That's what it's about.

Are you genuinely saying you wouldn't rather see Gustavo in the squad than Razak and Garcia?

-- Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:14 pm --

I disagree. Rodwell has had fitness problems so there have not been enough opportunities to really impress. I believe he is a better player with a wider skill set but Gustavo is more experienced.

What are these skills Gustavo lacks that Rodwell has?

Rodwell is more versatile for one. He can play as CB, midfield and very effective as a box to box player. Gustavo is not that versatile and so limited in what he can contribute.

As midfielder, Rodwell is stronger in tackling and athletic bursts, quicker, and have better shooting and passing technique and ability.

Rodwell is also still developing and is going to get even better.

How often have you Gustavo play? I'm a massive Rodders fan but Gustavo is better at this moment in time, as for claiming Rodders is a stronger tackler that's utter baloany.

 

[Blueband Brother]

It isn't about Rodwell.

Rodwell will get plenty games regardless.

Gustavo is better than Garcia, Barry, Milner and Razak. That's what it's about.

Are you genuinely saying you wouldn't rather see Gustavo in the squad than Razak and Garcia?

-- Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:14 pm --



What are these skills Gustavo lacks that Rodwell has?

Rodwell is more versatile for one. He can play as CB, midfield and very effective as a box to box player. Gustavo is not that versatile and so limited in what he can contribute.

As midfielder, Rodwell is stronger in tackling and athletic bursts, quicker, and have better shooting and passing technique and ability.

Rodwell is also still developing and is going to get even better.

How often have you Gustavo play? I'm a massive Rodders fan but Gustavo is better at this moment in time, as for claiming Rodders is a stronger tackler that's utter baloany.

How often have you seen Rodwell play? lol.

Rodwell is obviously a stronger tackler and is a better player.

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

Rodwell is more versatile for one. He can play as CB, midfield and very effective as a box to box player. Gustavo is not that versatile and so limited in what he can contribute.

As midfielder, Rodwell is stronger in tackling and athletic bursts, quicker, and have better shooting and passing technique and ability.

Rodwell is also still developing and is going to get even better.

How often have you Gustavo play? I'm a massive Rodders fan but Gustavo is better at this moment in time, as for claiming Rodders is a stronger tackler that's utter baloany.

How often have you seen Rodwell play? lol.

Rodwell is obviously a stronger tackler and is a better player.

Most Everton games that were on tv and all City games be it on tv, at The Etihad or on a dodgy interweb stream. Ask any non City fan who they think is a better player and 99% will choose Gustavo.

 

[Jimfv1]

Gustavo, Coentrao and Shaqiri would all be improvements to the team for Garcia/Barry, Kolarov and Sinclair. All three may be available but I doubt we will try to sign any of these. Maybe next summer when our guys at the top have watched them all play then we will see who is available then.

Personally I would love to see Bale at City for the left side, but with Jovetic and Aguero most likely to play on the left side of our attack line then there is no room for Bale to come in as well.

We can all discuss possible additions to the squad on these pages but although players are rumoured to be available it doesn't mean we will be in for them.

 

[Blueband Brother]

How often have you Gustavo play? I'm a massive Rodders fan but Gustavo is better at this moment in time, as for claiming Rodders is a stronger tackler that's utter baloany.

How often have you seen Rodwell play? lol.

Rodwell is obviously a stronger tackler and is a better player.

Most Everton games that were on tv and all City games be it on tv, at The Etihad or on a dodgy interweb stream. Ask any non City fan who they think is a better player and 99% will choose Gustavo.

That all comes down to exposure and media coverage as well as other issues. However I cannot blame them because as I've said Rodwell has not had the same media exposure over the past few years because of his physical problems. So people will obviously rate a Bayern Munich player and a Brazilian international whose performances are projected in screens all over the world ahead of Jack Rodwell.

I have watched Gustavo enough to know that he is a top player.But I have also seen enough of Rodwell to know that he is just in a higher capacity and hopefully if he stays fit, he will be able to correct yours and the opinion of the majority as he gets more exposure and opportunities to impress the public.

 

[NoahCity]

I would definitely take Gustavo because our only true defensive mids are Garcia and Barry, which isn't that great. However, I don't think we are in for him. Much more likely the we will get Pepe and can use him as a back up player as a DM.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Doesn't matter whether he is or isn't. I'd rather have Rodwell and let him develop into a better player than Gustavo will ever be. I rate Rodwell very highly, he's still young, he needs game time to improve and shoving him further down the pecking order for someone who is barely (if he even is at all - it is very debatable) better than him when we already have Fernandinho Yaya and loads of other cover in this area of the pitch, makes no sense.

It's the same reason I want to see Nastasić remain as first choice centre half. At 19 (he's now 20) he was the best teenage centre half I'd ever seen. He's not anywhere near his peak yet but he will only reach his absolute best at his peak if he plays games while he's developing.

It isn't about Rodwell.

Rodwell will get plenty games regardless.

Gustavo is better than Garcia, Barry, Milner and Razak. That's what it's about.

Are you genuinely saying you wouldn't rather see Gustavo in the squad than Razak and Garcia?

-- Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:14 pm --

I disagree. Rodwell has had fitness problems so there have not been enough opportunities to really impress. I believe he is a better player with a wider skill set but Gustavo is more experienced.

What are these skills Gustavo lacks that Rodwell has?

Rodwell is more versatile for one. He can play as CB, midfield and very effective as a box to box player. Gustavo is not that versatile and so limited in what he can contribute.

As midfielder, Rodwell is stronger in tackling and athletic bursts, quicker, and have better shooting and passing technique and ability.

Rodwell is also still developing and is going to get even better.

1. Firstly, 'Versatility' doesn't always equate to 'better'. Garcia and John O'shea are 'versatile' but are both bobbins. Secondly, if you want to go down that route Gustavo can play as DM, CB and LB which gives him 3 positions, just like Rodwell, so that squashes that part of your argument.

2. Gustavo is a better tackler, protector and shielder of the back 4 than Rodwell. He just is. His passing ability out from the back and DM position are also better than Rodwell.

I'm not sure what 'athletic bursts' are. Gustavo admittedly isn't known for his 'shooting' but then again that particular skill doesn't feature much in Rodwell's role/game either, so to compare them in that category is pretty pointless.

3. Gustavo is only 25 and therefore is also 'still learning' to.

Gustavo is better than Rodwell.

 

[ManCitizens.]

It isn't about Rodwell.

Rodwell will get plenty games regardless.

Gustavo is better than Garcia, Barry, Milner and Razak. That's what it's about.

Are you genuinely saying you wouldn't rather see Gustavo in the squad than Razak and Garcia?

-- Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:14 pm --



What are these skills Gustavo lacks that Rodwell has?

Rodwell is more versatile for one. He can play as CB, midfield and very effective as a box to box player. Gustavo is not that versatile and so limited in what he can contribute.

As midfielder, Rodwell is stronger in tackling and athletic bursts, quicker, and have better shooting and passing technique and ability.

Rodwell is also still developing and is going to get even better.

1. Firstly, 'Versatility' doesn't always equate to 'better'. Garcia and John O'shea are 'versatile' but are both bobbins. Secondly, if you want to go down that route Gustavo can play as DM, CB and LB which gives him 3 positions, just like Rodwell, so that squashes that part of your argument.

2. Gustavo is a better tackler, protector and shielder of the back 4 than Rodwell. He just is. His passing ability out from the back and DM position are also better than Rodwell.

I'm not sure what 'athletic bursts' are. Gustavo admittedly isn't known for his 'shooting' but then again that particular skill doesn't feature much in Rodwell's role/game either, so to compare them in that category is pretty pointless.

3. Gustavo is only 25 and therefore is also 'still learning' to.

Gustavo is better than Rodwell.

Have you even seen Rodwell play?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi9irrUqfs[/youtube] skip to 1.20.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VJota27Z-k[/youtube]

How many saves did Cech have to make when we beat them last season?

Rodwell and Gustavo are different players, it's like comparing Lucas to Gerrard. One does nothing but tackle and defend, whilst the other attacks and defends. Both are talented players.

 

[NoahCity]

Rodwell is more versatile for one. He can play as CB, midfield and very effective as a box to box player. Gustavo is not that versatile and so limited in what he can contribute.

As midfielder, Rodwell is stronger in tackling and athletic bursts, quicker, and have better shooting and passing technique and ability.

Rodwell is also still developing and is going to get even better.

1. Firstly, 'Versatility' doesn't always equate to 'better'. Garcia and John O'shea are 'versatile' but are both bobbins. Secondly, if you want to go down that route Gustavo can play as DM, CB and LB which gives him 3 positions, just like Rodwell, so that squashes that part of your argument.

2. Gustavo is a better tackler, protector and shielder of the back 4 than Rodwell. He just is. His passing ability out from the back and DM position are also better than Rodwell.

I'm not sure what 'athletic bursts' are. Gustavo admittedly isn't known for his 'shooting' but then again that particular skill doesn't feature much in Rodwell's role/game either, so to compare them in that category is pretty pointless.

3. Gustavo is only 25 and therefore is also 'still learning' to.

Gustavo is better than Rodwell.

Have you even seen Rodwell play?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXi9irrUqfs[/youtube] skip to 1.20.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VJota27Z-k[/youtube]

How many saves did Cech have to make when we beat them last season?

Rodwell and Gustavo are different players, it's like comparing Lucas to Gerrard. One does nothing but tackle and defend, whilst the other attacks and defends. Both are talented players.

that's why we could use Gustavo though, our defensive dedicated players are Garcia and Barry, which isn't that great (not sure how much defense Fernandinho will be asked to carry out but my guess is quite a bit).