Guvnors

mad4city said:
It's a sure sign that there's a recession on when these numb-nuts are being regarded as icons.
I'm old enough to remember the hoolies for what they were - neo-fascist, cowards and bullies. They should put that in their books - and yes, I did (and do) tell them so to their faces.
*It's because of these people's actions that we can't stand at games anymore.
*It's because of these people's actions that dads are afraid to bring their kids to games.
*It's because of these people's actions that anything SKY (and their re-branding of football) says, gets the green light from the government.
*It's because of these people's actions that a blind eye was turned when the game was priced out of the reach of the working classes.
*It's largely because of these people that kids with no work (you'll be seeing a lot of that soon, unfortunately) get into trouble instead of channelling their energies more productively.
*It's because of these people that ethnic minorities still feel intimidated about participating in football.

Why don't they all f**k off and ruin somebody else's sport?

Look, if you want to read a book about these idiots, great. Just be aware that they caused pain, misery, suffering and death to a great many people whose only crime was to want to watch a game of football.

Your obviously an expert on the subject...think you'll find the Francis boys helped attract ethnic minorities from Moss Side to the club!! Ive never heard such sanctimonious shit from some people on here. Telling people what they should and shouldnt read. It was a massive part of English culture and people are quite within their rights to read about it and write about.

I didnt like the holocaust but I still read books about it.

The sooner the stands are full of Justins with Jester hats the better for some, but it will be the end for many. More and more capuccino supping Guardian reading bollocks every day on this site. Manchester is a rough industrial city with huge social deprevation...if you expect every fan to be educated sensible people you are burying you head in the sand. And no Im not condoning violence and wishing for the old days, but for thousands of local kids it was the way things were in the seventies and eighties. These days the violence amongst kids is much worse..main difference it takes place on street corners and housing estates and not the back streets around Maine Road.
 
If you dont like a book...dont buy it.......
If you dont like porn....dont watch it......
If you hate Kebabs......dont eat them.......
The worst thing you can to is judge somebody who likes something you do not. You are bound to have tunnel vision. Thats the whole problem with the world....too many judges.
 
5knuckleshuffle said:
Thats the whole problem with the world....too many judges.

Judge Dread wasn't half bad though!

Now there was a guy who knew what he was talkin' about ..... ay-a-ya!

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5w8zV9Uoos" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5w8zV9Uoos</a>
 
black mamba said:
5knuckleshuffle said:
Thats the whole problem with the world....too many judges.

Judge Dread wasn't half bad though!

Now there was a guy who knew what he was talkin' about ..... ay-a-ya!

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5w8zV9Uoos" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5w8zV9Uoos</a>


dreadmania

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhqflFHYN_Q&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhqflFHY ... re=related</a>
 
Really interesting thread this, especially the ex-hooligans who are explaining how they first got in to it. Top marks all round for an interesting read lads.
 
BillyMC said:
The sooner the stands are full of Justins with Jester hats the better for some, but it will be the end for many. More and more capuccino supping Guardian reading bollocks every day on this site. Manchester is a rough industrial city with huge social deprevation...if you expect every fan to be educated sensible people you are burying you head in the sand.

Class warfare is bollocks. Take it from me, there is no dignity in being poor, there is no relief in it, there is no glory, there is only misery and starvation.

I don't expect every fan to be educated and sensible. I expect every fan to show basic human decency and compassion. If they cannot achieve this, then I challenge exactly what they are bringing to the gene pool.
 
Damocles said:
BillyMC said:
The sooner the stands are full of Justins with Jester hats the better for some, but it will be the end for many. More and more capuccino supping Guardian reading bollocks every day on this site. Manchester is a rough industrial city with huge social deprevation...if you expect every fan to be educated sensible people you are burying you head in the sand.

Class warfare is bollocks. Take it from me, there is no dignity in being poor, there is no relief in it, there is no glory, there is only misery and starvation.

I don't expect every fan to be educated and sensible. I expect every fan to show basic human decency and compassion. If they cannot achieve this, then I challenge exactly what they are bringing to the gene pool.
Think billy acknowledging the fact football had to change from the mayhem in the 80,s and rightly so but i totally agree with him it,s gone too far the other way now its not "protect and serve" by the police at football now,its total control,people are getting banned just for knowing wrong,uns and its just bollocks
 
5knuckleshuffle said:
If you dont like a book...dont buy it.......
If you dont like porn....dont watch it......
If you hate Kebabs......dont eat them.......
The worst thing you can to is judge somebody who likes something you do not. You are bound to have tunnel vision. Thats the whole problem with the world....too many judges.

I love kebabs
 

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