Harry Kane

The BBC has him on 55% of shots on target.

Shots on Target (Goals rate in brackets) Number of shots
Kane: 55% (21%) 38
Aguero: 57% (30%) 23
Lukaku: 65% (27%) 26
Raheem: 44% (33%) 18
Morata: 64% (43%) 14
Jesus: 65% (35%) 17
Sane: 64% (42%) 12
Salah: 64% (18%) 28

Obviously doesn't mean a lot at this stage of the season, but perhaps the most telling statistic is that Harry Kane shoots way more than any other striker, suggesting he's slightly less discriminating about when he shoots. Salah is also quite good at getting it on target, but the least likely to score, suggesting a player that will always try and shoot when he has sight of goal, which seems to match what I've seen from him so far. It may also suggest someone who's not actually as accurate, therefore just makes sure he gets it on target rather than trying to place it exactly, whereas Sterling looks like the opposite. It can also reflect the style of football the team plays. You'd expect players that score more on the counter (like Sane) to have a higher conversion rate, because they'll often be one-on-one with the keeper, whereas someone like Kane or Aguero get more of their goals against a packed defence.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
ok sure, last season - best conversion rate


Goals Chance conversion
15/16 16/17 15/16 16/17
Kane 25 29 20% 26%
Lukaku 18 25 21% 29%
Sanchez 13 24 18% 28%
Costa 12 20 23% 25%
Aguero 24 20 26% 20%
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Ok I’ve no interest in previous years as your original post which I quoted stated:

BlueHammer85 said:
Id argue he’s one the best finishers at the moment,
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So I posted this which shows he isn’t. The moment being the period now in which we are all living and breathing.


SWP's back said:
I’ll have a look. Read in an article the other day that he takes nearly double the amount of shots as Aguero and Lukaku.

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His conversion rate is well below his peers. He just shoots a lot more.
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So let’s tally them:

Kane 14.2%
Aguero 25.9%
Jesus 30%
Lukaku 20.6%

So at the moment he’s scoring a lot of goals as he’s shooting far more than other people but his shot conversion rate does not remotely suggest that “at the moment he is one of the best finishers around”.

QED
 
SWP's back said:
Ok I’ve no interest in previous years as your original post which I quoted stated:



So I posted this which shows he isn’t. The moment being the period now in which we are all living and breathing.




So let’s tally them:

Kane 14.2%
Aguero 25.9%
Jesus 30%
Lukaku 20.6%

So at the moment he’s scoring a lot of goals as he’s shooting far more than other people but his shot conversion rate does not remotely suggest that “at the moment he is one of the best finishers around”.

QED
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Shot conversion is not a statistical representation of how good a finisher you are though. If you asked 100 people to define what a good finisher is, I'd bet none of them say "It's the ratio of how many shots you have on target to how many goals you score"

Harry Kane's penchant for taking a lot of shots when nothing is on doesn't make him any worse at finishing when a big chance falls his way, it's more to do with Spurs tactics than anything.


I would suggest ExG vs. Actual goals would give you a better statistic to show who's the best finisher.
 
SWP's back said:
Ok I’ve no interest in previous years as your original post which I quoted stated:



So I posted this which shows he isn’t. The moment being the period now in which we are all living and breathing.




So let’s tally them:

Kane 14.2%
Aguero 25.9%
Jesus 30%
Lukaku 20.6%

So at the moment he’s scoring a lot of goals as he’s shooting far more than other people but his shot conversion rate does not remotely suggest that “at the moment he is one of the best finishers around”.

QED
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still doesn't prove he's not one of the best finishers around
 
BlueHammer85 said:
It's still early in the season and minutes played is a big factor, although wasn't i laughed at for saying Lukaku is world class ?


Last season :
Kane has achieved the third-best minutes-per-goal rate (94.3) of any player in the league this season, behind only Michy Batshuayi of Chelsea and Gabriel Jesus of Manchester City.

65 per cent of all Kane's shots end up on target; that's a higher rate than any of the other 25 top scorers in the league this season.

Kane's shots-on-target rate is all the more impressive when you consider that, of those 25 top goal-scorers, only Aguero, Christian Benteke and Gylfi Sigurdsson have fired off more shots than the Spurs forward's 85.

only two of the league's 25 top scorers have contributed more assists than his seven – Sanchez (10) and Sigurdsson (13).
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And which teams has Lumpkaku scored his PL goals against ? Those in the bottom half of the table, mainly, if not entirely. He didn’t score against either Liverpool nor Huddersfield, who are the two highest-placed sides the rags have played so far this season, I believe.

Scoring against relegation candidates does not make him a world-class forward.
 
Vienna_70 said:
And which teams has Lumpkaku scored his PL goals against ? Those in the bottom half of the table, mainly, if not entirely. He didn’t score against either Liverpool nor Huddersfield, who are the two highest-placed sides the rags have played so far this season, I believe.

Scoring against relegation candidates does not make him a world-class forward.
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well his scored 5 in 12 against Man City
 
Dumb debate. Nowhere near as good as Ronaldo, but they are very different players.

Kane is a good one, and extremely prolific. However, he is a bad fit for a Pep team (and many modern teams at that)
 
yankblue said:
Dumb debate. Nowhere near as good as Ronaldo, but they are very different players.

Kane is a good one, and extremely prolific. However, he is a bad fit for a Pep team (and many modern teams at that)
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Yep, though spurs also have good movement Jesus is much better suited to our style. Especially in the high press and rapid counter.
 
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