Harry Kane

leo_citeh said:
That's what makes Kane great doesn't it, his numbers are up there with the best, despite barely anything about his game being appealing. He lacks everything for the masses that a modern 9 has, but in reality he's got all that and is a top finisher (except well, pace).
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Let's all hope so if we sign him
 
MadchesterCity said:
Watching it now
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leo_citeh said:
That's what makes Kane great doesn't it, his numbers are up there with the best, despite barely anything about his game being appealing. He lacks everything for the masses that a modern 9 has, but in reality he's got all that and is a top finisher (except well, pace).
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Last summer I had a conversation with some other blues about what on earth we were going to do when Aguero finally did say goodbye. I was very vocal about not wanting Harry Kane anywhere near City. Would have loved us to been able to break the bank for Mbappe. Since then Haaland has obviously banged silly numbers in Europe for Dortmund so his name has come into the picture as a potential replacement.

The reality is as simple as this though, Mbappe and Haaland aren't coming to City. Harry Kane is IMO the next best out there in world football. Premier Leagues best striker and in his prime. Add to that he's pretty much said he wants trophies and also said he'd love to be on the end of Kevin De Bruyne's crosses week in, week out.

My point is, I've seriously warmed to the idea of us getting Harry, although at the same time I understand people who have their doubts. For me, nobody will ever come close to Aguero and how I felt/still feel about him. Replacing him feels raw - but there's no place for sentimentality in top level football and we have to go all out (even if it is £130/140 million) and get the next best, attainable goal scoring asset out there, which is Harry Kane.
 
MadchesterCity said:
@Pollocks OG

What a great watch and really likable character, comes across as an honest, genuine, dedicated, intelligent, ambitious and driven man. Watching that really impressed me and taught me that I shouldn't judge a book by it's cover.
It's admirable that he is family orientated, doesn't drink during the football season and is such a model professional.
Not sure about American Football Punter but he could have a career in golf. Let's hope he can have a few rounds with pep and Kyle next season.
I'll admit prior to watching the video I generally disliked the guy, in hindsight totally unfairly and purely based on footballing perspective as an opposition player.
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Yep, glad you've said all these things. 100% mirrored how it's made me feel about him now I've watched it.

I believe he will be an absolute asset to City.
 
Keeper! said:
I am not knocking the guy (Kane) his record says it all, he is just not a player that I have ever taken to, each to their own.

I feel we lack pace in the final third, sometimes far too predictable, especially in the tight games, we all witnessed it in the Chelsea games.(Under Tommy T)

Chelsea has Werner, a player struggling for goals but a player who is always a constant threat because of his pace.

Pace is incredibly important in the game.
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Fair enough, but I don't think Aguero was rapid either, in his latter seasons he was more about balance and overall play then just out and out pace. I do agree on us lacking pace in final 3rd. But I think that applies to our wingers. Sterling obviously has a lot of pace, but we have no speedster aside that. I miss having both Sterling and Sané on our counter attacks. Now we mostly have Mahrez and Foden either side. I think it's certainly an area we could improve on, no doubt.
 
leo_citeh said:
Fair enough, but I don't think Aguero was rapid either, in his latter seasons he was more about balance and overall play then just out and out pace. I do agree on us lacking pace in final 3rd. But I think that applies to our wingers. Sterling obviously has a lot of pace, but we have no speedster aside that. I miss having both Sterling and Sané on our counter attacks. Now we mostly have Mahrez and Foden either side. I think it's certainly an area we could improve on, no doubt.
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In his latter seasons maybe not, but he still had that burst and low center of gravity that destroyed defenders.

Young Kun's pace was scary, he was rapid, just the constant muscle injuries took the edge of it.
 
Keeper! said:
I am not knocking the guy (Kane) his record says it all, he is just not a player that I have ever taken to, each to their own.

I feel we lack pace in the final third, sometimes far too predictable, especially in the tight games, we all witnessed it in the Chelsea games.(Under Tommy T)

Chelsea has Werner, a player struggling for goals but a player who is always a constant threat because of his pace.

Pace is incredibly important in the game.
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Theo Walcott and Jesus Navas like this. :)
 
Pollocks OG said:
Random question but completely related to the debate in this thread.

If Alan Shearer was 27/28 and playing in the Premier League today - how big a fee do people think we'd have to pay to get him?
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I think Kane has scored a few more goals in less games than Shearer in the league at the same stage in their careers.

Consider too that Shearer played for title winners Blackburn and title chasing Newcastle in a pretty weak league when compared to today whereas Kane plays for Spurs.

The season before Shearer turned 28 he only played 17 games through injury and scored 2 goals so no doubt the forum would be saying he's injury prone and past it...I think his record in Europe was pretty poor too.

They are different types of forward, both great players and both great goal scorers.
 
Kane is an instinctive player but when he's at his best it is usually because Son does all the graft. Son is the water carrier Kane is the end product. Therefore if we have someone feeding into him in the final third ala 'Foden/Gundog' etc he will surely reap the benefits. That then negates the argument about his speed or lack thereof?!!
 
I'm still hoping Levy digs in, upsets Harry and we get him to buyout his own contract for £60m. Would be so sweet and an absolute bargain.
 
BillyShears said:
I keep reading this comment from people who don't want Kane and it really is some confused reasoning. We're not a modelling agency recruiting models. We're recruiting footballers because we're a football club. If you tell me that the guy we're buying will do the job that he's being bought to do, then tell me you still don't want him, it makes me wonder what on earth you're actually talking about ..
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BillyShears said:
I keep reading this comment from people who don't want Kane and it really is some confused reasoning. We're not a modelling agency recruiting models. We're recruiting footballers because we're a football club. If you tell me that the guy we're buying will do the job that he's being bought to do, then tell me you still don't want him, it makes me wonder what on earth you're actually talking about ...
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I have explained this before.
Kane will score plenty...I also think you could have someone like dominic Calvert lewin or lukaku or even "Danny fucking ings" and they would score plenty as well.....any decent striker will. Cavanni would score shit loads for us

Now none of those are better options than Kane (cavanni 5 years ago maybe) but they would still score lots due to the amounts of chances against most teams...

However, it's in the big one off tight games where chances are a premium or you need something out of nothing that sets the true greats apart from the rest...that's why despite the stats I'd have a kun at 28 rather than Kane...if have a sadio Mane rather than kane ir a haaland.....they are players that despite what stats say I'd have over the likes of Kane or a van nistelrooy fir instance.....both great goal scorers but Shearer for instance could pull a goal from all angles......I just dont believe Kane has that last extra bit.

I haven't once said however that he isnt a top goal scorer...he is....I just prefer a kun type of player to a kane...nothing to do regarding his nationality or what club he is coming from either...and I dont care about the cost either.

It's his style of play .....he means we will be less fluid in attack.....his lack of mobility will be an issue with this.....I know him dropping deeper creates space for others to move into and his link up play is very good but that can be taught to any player....kunlearnt it when many said he wouldn't be able to...those half chances or goals out of nothing...that cannot be taught. I've seen nothing of kane to say he has what I think is a key ingredient.
 
mosssideblue said:
1st sentence. Are the anti Kane and Grealish posters not guilty of the same?
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No

I'm judging both (esp Kane) after watching him for both club and country for seasons. Dont know about anyone else. And no spurs arent a shit team before that line gets regurgitated
 
simon23 said:
I was replying to a poster who said haaland did nothing against us which is clearly wrong
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He didn't do much to be honest over 2 games. Off the top of my head he got an assist and pushed Dias off the ball. The fact that him pushing Dias off the ball was one of the things you highlight doesn't say much about what he did in two games against us.
 
Keeper! said:
We are all guilty.

We could sign Kane and he flops just as could Haaland, however good a player looks at another club, there is no guarantee they can settle at another.

It took a couple of seasons for two of our greatest players Kompany and Zabba to look anything like players.
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You're talking too much sense ;-)

How bloody true that is, though! Footballers are not robots, they're not bionic and programmable. A team is an organic entity, and one player can fit into it, where another really struggles. Think of Mahrez, how terrific he looked during that miraculous season at Leicester. And how relatively mediocre he looked for a long time with us.

Haaland does look like a beast. But he's so young that he hasn't really done anything yet. And he's played in one league, and it isn't ours.

Even David Silva came to us with a very good reputation, and then rose to unquestioned greatness. At his absolute height, he was beyond price. There is no money that would have been acceptable for him to me, because you simply don't replace a player like that. Furthermore, we never will. Perhaps two or three generations down the road. But when he came from Valencia, who would have thought he'd reach that level?

Then Bony. Big fish in a small pond, they loved him at Swansea. In our setup, he looked like a donkey at the crossroads, pure and simple. Not knowing which way to go, not knowing what to do. Completely lost.

It's always a bit of a gamble. I want City to take that gamble on Kane.
 
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