Harry Kane

JimB said:
Fucked up the Olympic stadium deal? Please explain.

By the way, Spurs don’t lose many players at all. And those that do leave only leave for clubs

Umm……..not sure you read my post properly. Where did I claim that Spurs currently are rivalling City? You’re imagining it.

The discussion is about the supposed substance of this gentleman’s agreement. And the claim is that Levy agreed to allow Kane to leave should Spurs not look like competing got honours. I have no problem in conceding that that is now the case.

But that is only one side of the agreement. The other is that another club must pay the asking price. And until that happens, Levy is not honour bound to allow Kane to leave. To which end, contrary to the narrative on here, the only person who appears to be breaking the agreement is Kane.
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So Levy can say he’s honouring the agreement and the ask for £500m? Bollocks
 
It's no wonder Spurs rarely buy any quality players. They are a stepping stone club that make it a nightmare to leave if you succeed with them but want to further your career and win a trophy.

Bale, Modric, Berbatov and now Kane have all been through the same thing.
 
D'Silva said:
Levy is essentially putting an unreasonable price on Harry Kane that would either make the buying club go away or if their stupid enough to actually buy him at an inflated price. A potent combination of vindictiveness and greed.
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Given that Kane is one of the top two or three strikers in the world; given the premium always paid for elite goal scorers; given that he has a phenomenal goal scoring record at international as well as club level; given that he is England captain; given that he was PL top goal scorer and assister last season (in a poor team); given that the source of his success is technical quality and mentality rather than physical prowess and that there is therefore no reason to expect that he will rapidly decline; and given that he still has 3 years remaining on his contract; it would be just as easy to argue that any offer less than £150m is unreasonable.
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
It's no wonder Spurs rarely buy any quality players. They are a stepping stone club that make it a nightmare to leave if you succeed with them but want to further your career and win a trophy.

Bale, Modric, Berbatov and now Kane have all been through the same thing.
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Your point is a tad self defeating, mate, given the success that those players went on to enjoy! ;-)
 
JimB said:
Your point is a tad self defeating, mate, given the success that those players went on to enjoy! ;-)
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Not really. There is always some tedious song and dance when Spurs are involved. All of those players had to force a sale through.

If I have a choice between Spurs and say Everton/Arsenal/West Ham then I would pick the others because I know they won't fuck me about.
 
JimB said:
Yes, I know!

But at the time that Kane signed his six year contract, Spurs very much were regularly in the mix for major silverware.
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It’s very easy to assume that money is all that matters when signing a contract. However, players will also want assurances of club progression when committing their future to a club.

There is zero chance that Kane would have signed a 6 year deal at Spurs if he could have foreseen the trajectory of the club since Pochettino left.

From Kane’s point of view he has kept his side of the bargain. He is consistently among the top goal scorers every season, which is what he is paid to do. Spurs have plummeted down the league due to piss poor signings, planning and management.

If you combine the piss poor management and talk of a gentlemen’s agreement not being adhered to, it’s no wonder Kane feels pissed off with the club.

I think City should throw a £120 million take it or leave it bid. Let’s see Levy justify turning down a bid that would make Kane the third highest transfer fee of all time. There’s a fine line between placing a value on a player and pricing someone out of a move, especially when a gentlemen’s agreement potentially exists.
 
adelaideblue said:
at least he wont be fit by the time the season kicks off, jsut need to focus on Son to defend
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Interesting that, will he play against us or for us in the first match if the deal goes through.

I think the Guy on here who suggested the deal could be done after we play them but obvs before the window shuts could be right.
 
not my fault! said:
But Kane has stated or hinted that the asking price is £100m! My suspicion is Levy saw his arse Kane let that out meaning City have bid that, and is now moving the goalposts out of spite. Either way he’s negated on a gentleman’s agreement, granted he can it’s not binding, but it’s a cunts trick.
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In that interview with Gary Neville, Kane suggested that the asking price might, by way of example, be £100m. That was just him optimistically trying to set the agenda. If Levy had actually said that the agreed asking price was £100m, then Harry would have had no qualms about saying exactly that. But there’s no way that a savvy negotiator like Levy would ever put a figure on it.
 
I wonder if Tottenham have put two differing prices on Kane's head? An agreeable one for whenever Tottenham would be ready to sell (ie when they've made their signings and later than 15/08). And a go fuck yourself fee for if City want to make it happen now.
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
Not really. There is always some tedious song and dance when Spurs are involved. All of those players had to force a sale through.

If I have a choice between Spurs and say Everton/Arsenal/West Ham then I would pick the others because I know they won't fuck me about.
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Players will make their choices on the basis of pay; the manager; potential for success; style of play; location of club; and many other reasons besides.

The possibility that, 3-4 years down the line, your new club might drive a hard bargain with your next club won’t figure prominently among them.
 
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JimB said:
In that interview with Gary Neville, Kane suggested that the asking price might, by way of example, be £100m. That was just him optimistically trying to set the agenda. If Levy had actually said that the agreed asking price was £100m, then Harry would have had no qualms about saying exactly that. But there’s no way that a savvy negotiator like Levy would ever put a figure on it.
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Know him personally do you? Or are you just a fan surmising like everyone else? The £100m figure wasn’t plucked out of thin air so take your blinkers off and accept your beloved Levy is fucking over one of your own. I couldn’t careless if he signs for city, I’m one of the 43.1% who don’t want him, but it’s clear to see he’s pissed off and feels betrayed.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
It’s very easy to assume that money is all that matters when signing a contract. However, players will also want assurances of club progression when committing their future to a club.

There is zero chance that Kane would have signed a 6 year deal at Spurs if he could have foreseen the trajectory of the club since Pochettino left.

From Kane’s point of view he has kept his side of the bargain. He is consistently among the top goal scorers every season, which is what he is paid to do. Spurs have plummeted down the league due to piss poor signings, planning and management.

If you combine the piss poor management and talk of a gentlemen’s agreement not being adhered to, it’s no wonder Kane feels pissed off with the club.

I think City should throw a £120 million take it or leave it bid. Let’s see Levy justify turning down a bid that would make Kane the third highest transfer fee of all time. There’s a fine line between placing a value on a player and pricing someone out of a move, especially when a gentlemen’s agreement potentially exists.
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That’s the gamble you take when you sign a lucrative, long term contract. You get the pay rise that you wanted but, in return, you commit to stay at the club.
 
JimB said:
That’s the gamble you take when you sign a lucrative, long term contract. You get the pay rise that you wanted but, in return, you commit to stay at the club.
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But the club also have a duty to fulfil the ambition of the player, which would have been promised during the contract talks.

Levy has every right to refuse to sell Kane at any cost. But you have to consider the knock on effect of this. Why would any top player commit to a side who lacks ambition and will price them out of any future potential move?
 
not my fault! said:
Know him personally do you? Or are you just a fan surmising like everyone else? The £100m figure wasn’t plucked out of thin air so take your blinkers off and accept your beloved Levy is fucking over one of your own. I couldn’t careless if he signs for city, I’m one of the 43.1% who don’t want him, but it’s clear to see he’s pissed off and feels betrayed.
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I watched the interview. It was as clear as day that the £100m figure was just Kane putting down a marker.

"I mean, he might want to sell me! 'He might be thinking, 'If I could get £100 million for you, then why not?' Do you know what I mean? I'm not going to be worth that for the next two or three years."

It's Harry chancing his arm; trying to set the agenda. Not even the slightest suggestion that it was an actual figure agreed between them.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
But the club also have a duty to fulfil the ambition of the player, which would have been promised during the contract talks.

Levy has every right to refuse to sell Kane at any cost. But you have to consider the knock on effect of this. Why would any top player commit to a side who lacks ambition and will price them out of any future potential move?
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The only duty that any party to a contract has is to fulfil their side of it. If Spurs had made the promises that you claim they will have made, then they would now be in breach of contract if they refused to sell. So there would be no need for any talk about a gentleman's agreement.
 
gentleman agreement, Kane isnt a very bright person but very naive if he believed Levy will stick to any promise that is not binding in the contract, hard to blame Levy on when potentially extra 30/50m can be made just by stretching this deal out until end of window
 
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