Harry Maguire

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I think @Dax777 was proposing 4 CB's earlier: Laporte, Stones, Garcia and Sandler partly to save paying stupid fees with FFP hanging over us?

I was just pointing out Ferny and possibly Rodri, if we get him? would provide additional CB cover in an injury emergency. It depends how much we are prepared to trust our younger players? (Remember De Ligt is only 19).
De Ligt is a generational talent and I should have said 3 senior CBs.
 
To be honest, I'm usually all for "Buy Pep the players he wants," but if Maguire costs anything over £65m then I would hope Pep will take a chance on a lesser known player in a cheaper price range. I would genuinely be furious if we paid £90m for Harry Maguire, and I really don't have anything against the bloke.
 
To be honest, I'm usually all for "Buy Pep the players he wants," but if Maguire costs anything over £65m then I would hope Pep will take a chance on a lesser known player in a cheaper price range. I would genuinely be furious if we paid £90m for Harry Maguire, and I really don't have anything against the bloke.
I feel like he's a disaster waiting to happen if he were played in our usual setup. Maybe I'm wrong. I have the exact same feeling I had when we went after Rodwell, though.
 
So say Laporte and Stones pick up injuries at the same time. You would be happy to rock up at somewhere like Anfield with Garcia and Sandler at cb?

Walker----Garcia---Sandler----Zinchenko
If Stones and Laporte are both injured, I won't be happy with that outcome no matter who we get.

And for the record, it will be Dihno and Sandler/Garcia if they are both injured.
 
He is good at running with the ball but he isn't good passing it. The number of times he plays poor balls or is caught out at the back is alarming. He would take us backwards and there is no raw potential there that makes him worth the investment. When Alderweireld is available for 25m if I remember rightly, it is a no brainer to go for him instead. That allows us to remain solid now and bring younger players through. Rather than pay a fortune on someone who neither improves us now nor in the future.

He's a good passer and plays incisive passes. As good as Laporte? no, but still good.
His passing should be better with us too given half the work is based on your positioning and that of teammates

Pep has basically said he wants extra aerial ability in the squad. Rodri will add some but we're losing Kompany and Otamendi so I think we'll pass on Alderweireld

PL 18/19 aerial win percentage:
  1. Maguire 79%
  2. Kompany 68%
  3. Otamendi 61%
  4. Laporte 59%
  5. Alderwireld 53%
(Rodri = 68%)

For comparison,
VVD = 75%
De Ligt = 65%
 
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He'll be a beast at corners. He's just what we need, if he was called maguireinho everybody would be saying get him but coz he's just harry from Yorkshire he's crap.
No brainer for me, boosts our home grown players and he's going to be an established England centre half for a few years.
 
Generational talent
Is that the new term for young and expensive
Messi was a once in a generational talent
Now there’s loads!
 
Maguire isn't a glamours target, but I think we need a big unit. I'd prefer Jonathan Tah, but maybe Pep wants the homegrown slot so we can get better foreign players. It's obvious we need a big CB not only to deal with set pieces, but with long balls in the PL. Lots of teams like Burnley, Brighton, Watford etc. have a big striker and it was usually Vinny (towards the end) pushing up against the striker and winning the long balls and us winning the 2nd ball. This is just as important to keep the opposition away from our own goal.

You could argue Maguire is slow, but usually teams with big strikers aren't blessed with pace either. The lack of pace could be a problem against Liverpool, but that's a different animal and most CB's have a difficult time the way they play. Pep may not decide to play him anyway against smaller faster strikers and may play Stones and Laporte.

He could also pair with any of the CB's including Dinho or Garcia in case of injuries. He can be the ball winner and the other is better distributing.
 
He is good at running with the ball but he isn't good passing it. The number of times he plays poor balls or is caught out at the back is alarming. He would take us backwards and there is no raw potential there that makes him worth the investment. When Alderweireld is available for 25m if I remember rightly, it is a no brainer to go for him instead. That allows us to remain solid now and bring younger players through. Rather than pay a fortune on someone who neither improves us now nor in the future.

There’s no rational argument against this.
 
He'll be a beast at corners. He's just what we need, if he was called maguireinho everybody would be saying get him but coz he's just harry from Yorkshire he's crap.
No brainer for me, boosts our home grown players and he's going to be an established England centre half for a few years.

He’s got a lot going for him mate but imo he’s not a ‘Pep player’ as he doesn’t have the the intelligence or technique and is slow ‘on the turn’.

Especially at the fees being quoted.

In Stones and Laporte I’m more than happy with them as first choice.

We’ll see I suppose, but Alderwiereld at 25m is the much better option imo.
 
He’s got a lot going for him mate but imo he’s not a ‘Pep player’ as he doesn’t have the the intelligence or technique and is slow ‘on the turn’.

Especially at the fees being quoted.

In Stones and Laporte I’m more than happy with them as first choice.

We’ll see I suppose, but Alderwiereld at 25m is the much better option imo.
But that is what pep is damn good at and that's turning your average player into a world beater.

I think he'd work wonders with Maguire I really do.
 
But that is what pep is damn good at and that's turning your average player into a world beater.

I think he'd work wonders with Maguire I really do.

Yeah if you compare Otamendi prior to Pep's arrival I don't think anyone would have thought he'd be a good ball playing CB.
 
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