He is Risen...

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Blueband Brother said:
PJMCC1UK said:
Blueband Brother said:
If you sincerly ask God for forgiveness for your sins, He is always there to forgive.

But why then did Jesus die for MY sins??

Jesus sacrificed himself on the cross as payment for the sins of man. By doing so, he has now given us the freedom to choose whether we want to live accoring to his teachings and go to heaven when we die or turn the other way and live according to the worlds teachings and be completely seperated from God when we die.

This is why we are now able to pray for forgiveness and repent when we sin because Jesus enabled it by paying the ultimate price on the cross.

If Jesus did not die for our sins, we will all be condemned after death.

That makes no sense.
He died for the sins of man thousands of years ago. So are all those who lived before him condemned? Surely they must be if only now are we free to ''choose''.
I also understand that Jesus was sentenced to death. He did not sacrifice himself. He was handed over. In no way does that mean he offered himself up for our sins. So his followers spun that one in my opinion.

And didn't God create man with sin?
I also don't get why he would need to sacrifice himself to his own dad. If his Dad sent him to teach us surely it would benefit humanity that he stayed.
 
PJMCC1UK said:
Blueband Brother said:
PJMCC1UK said:
But why then did Jesus die for MY sins??

Jesus sacrificed himself on the cross as payment for the sins of man. By doing so, he has now given us the freedom to choose whether we want to live accoring to his teachings and go to heaven when we die or turn the other way and live according to the worlds teachings and be completely seperated from God when we die.

This is why we are now able to pray for forgiveness and repent when we sin because Jesus enabled it by paying the ultimate price on the cross.

If Jesus did not die for our sins, we will all be condemned after death.

That makes no sense.
He died for the sins of man thousands of years ago. So are all those who lived before him condemned? Surely they must be if only now are we free to ''choose''.
I also understand that Jesus was sentenced to death. He did not sacrifice himself. He was handed over. In no way does that mean he offered himself up for our sins. So his followers spun that one in my opinion.

And didn't God create man with sin?
I also don't get why he would need to sacrifice himself to his own dad. If his Dad sent him to teach us surely it would benefit humanity that he stayed.

if its now acknowledged by christians that adam and eve wasn't the start of life there was no original sin so no need for a saviour
 
The Flash said:
Ammy said:
'...and when he drew near and saw the city, he wept over it... ' (Luke 19:41)
Jesus was a Blue...

Or should I stay out of this thread, being an evil, dirty woman...?
You best keep out of it. Your lot aren't welcome.

Are there any women here...?
 
Ammy said:
The Flash said:
Ammy said:
'...and when he drew near and saw the city, he wept over it... ' (Luke 19:41)
Jesus was a Blue...

Or should I stay out of this thread, being an evil, dirty woman...?
You best keep out of it. Your lot aren't welcome.

Are there any women here...?
I got told to keep my beak out of a fix it thread before.
 
Ammy said:
The Flash said:
Ammy said:
'...and when he drew near and saw the city, he wept over it... ' (Luke 19:41)
Jesus was a Blue...

Or should I stay out of this thread, being an evil, dirty woman...?
You best keep out of it. Your lot aren't welcome.

Are there any women here...?

I heard whispers there was but i am not convinced myself.

Ahh Blueband my deluded friend :)
Would you like to know how my hotel room bible removal scheme is going and the methods used? :p
 
PJMCC1UK said:
Blueband Brother said:
PJMCC1UK said:
But why then did Jesus die for MY sins??

Jesus sacrificed himself on the cross as payment for the sins of man. By doing so, he has now given us the freedom to choose whether we want to live accoring to his teachings and go to heaven when we die or turn the other way and live according to the worlds teachings and be completely seperated from God when we die.

This is why we are now able to pray for forgiveness and repent when we sin because Jesus enabled it by paying the ultimate price on the cross.

If Jesus did not die for our sins, we will all be condemned after death.

That makes no sense.
He died for the sins of man thousands of years ago. So are all those who lived before him condemned? Surely they must be if only now are we free to ''choose''.
I also understand that Jesus was sentenced to death. He did not sacrifice himself. He was handed over. In no way does that mean he offered himself up for our sins. So his followers spun that one in my opinion.

And didn't God create man with sin?
I also don't get why he would need to sacrifice himself to his own dad. If his Dad sent him to teach us surely it would benefit humanity that he stayed.

He WAS his own Dad. That's how fucked up this nonsense is!

Jesus got nailed to a tree for dissing the Romans. He was a hippy who got just desserts for challenging the ruling authority of the day. Reactionaries and revolutionaries weren't tolerated back then. He was nothing more than a uni student who'd had too many cider and black. His mate Judas shopped him cos his antics had just cost them a sweet bedsit in town for their second year.
 
Blueband Brother said:
PJMCC1UK said:
Blueband Brother said:
If you sincerly ask God for forgiveness for your sins, He is always there to forgive.

But why then did Jesus die for MY sins??

Jesus sacrificed himself on the cross as payment for the sins of man. By doing so, he has now given us the freedom to choose whether we want to live accoring to his teachings and go to heaven when we die or turn the other way and live according to the worlds teachings and be completely seperated from God when we die.

This is why we are now able to pray for forgiveness and repent when we sin because Jesus enabled it by paying the ultimate price on the cross.

If Jesus did not die for our sins, we will all be condemned after death.
You do realise that its highly possible that jesus did not die on the cross, right? I.e he was alive when taken off but badly injured.. Also, why would jesus sacrificing himself spare mankind any punishment? Not egging you on (pun was intended) just curious to have a reasoned debate on the subject without it getting nasty.
 
PJMCC1UK said:
Blueband Brother said:
PJMCC1UK said:
But why then did Jesus die for MY sins??

Jesus sacrificed himself on the cross as payment for the sins of man. By doing so, he has now given us the freedom to choose whether we want to live accoring to his teachings and go to heaven when we die or turn the other way and live according to the worlds teachings and be completely seperated from God when we die.

This is why we are now able to pray for forgiveness and repent when we sin because Jesus enabled it by paying the ultimate price on the cross.

If Jesus did not die for our sins, we will all be condemned after death.

That makes no sense.
He died for the sins of man thousands of years ago. So are all those who lived before him condemned? Surely they must be if only now are we free to ''choose''.
I also understand that Jesus was sentenced to death. He did not sacrifice himself. He was handed over. In no way does that mean he offered himself up for our sins. So his followers spun that one in my opinion.

And didn't God create man with sin?
I also don't get why he would need to sacrifice himself to his own dad. If his Dad sent him to teach us surely it would benefit humanity that he stayed.
Good points. I think even the biggest christian believer would find it hard to argue that with so many versions of the bible there wasnt some fuckery involved in them somewhere.
 
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