Homeless people/addiction.

give it to gordon said:
Agree I wont go into to much detail but I had a shit 6 or 7 years. In which I lost both parents, marriage break up and redundancy ( 22 yes same place ).

I didn t a typical British thing and just thought through it.

But when i found happiness again a beautiful wife i felt safe again. That's when i went down hill, i couldn't work it out.
A therapist told me that now that I feel safe in life I am letting out years of holding it all in.

I am now in a great place but I strongly believe I got lucky.

Our mental health in this country is great and getting to see a doctor is getting more or less impossible
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Therapy can be dismissive by some as what help would talking do. But it's the reflective listening that helps often, and people should never feel weak because they need help. A chain of events and choices both good or poor and our lives can change radically. I think the important thing is to recognise our emotions and moods and roll with them.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
The precipitating “illness” is illusory.

He CREATED one by his own actions. Self harm creates many real, identifiable and treatable illnesses.

Hey, if you want to create mental illness out of thin air, knock yourself out. But, all I see (from the info originally provided) is a bloke drowning his sorrows, letting it get out of hand and affecting his financial health, too.

You guys pay for his upkeep. No skin off my nose if you want to live in and support the Nanny State. Sounds like it’s working out just dandy!
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How do you know why he chose to start drinking every night? It’s not so black and white and maybe instead of it being him just saying ‘fuck it!’ the depression came on at that point BECAUSE of what happened to him. I’d hope you realise that depression can come ‘out of thin air’.
 
Here’s some causes for depression I found


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There's no single cause of depression. It can occur for a variety of reasons and it has many different triggers.
For some people, an upsetting or stressful life event, such as bereavement, divorce, illness, redundancy and job or money worries, can be the cause.
Different causes can often combine to trigger depression. For example, you may feel low after being ill and then experience a traumatic event, such as a bereavement, which brings on depression.
People often talk about a "downward spiral" of events that leads to depression. For example, if your relationship with your partner breaks down, you're likely to feel low, you may stop seeing friends and family and you may start drinking more. All of this can make you feel worse and trigger depression.
Some studies have also suggested that you're more likely to get depression as you get older, and that it's more common in people who live in difficult social and economic circumstances.

Stressful events​

Most people take time to come to terms with stressful events, such as bereavement or a relationship breakdown. When these stressful events occur, your risk of becoming depressed is increased if you stop seeing your friends and family and try to deal with your problems on your own.

Personality​

You may be more vulnerable to depression if you have certain personality traits, such as low self-esteem or being overly self-critical. This may be because of the genes you've inherited from your parents, your early life experiences, or both.

Family history​

If someone in your family has had depression in the past, such as a parent or sister or brother, it's more likely that you'll also develop it.

Giving birth​

Some women are particularly vulnerable to depression after pregnancy. The hormonal and physical changes, as well as the added responsibility of a new life, can lead to postnatal depression.

Loneliness​

Feelings of loneliness, caused by things such as becoming cut off from your family and friends can increase your risk of depression.

Alcohol and drugs​

When life is getting them down, some people try to cope by drinking too much alcohol or taking drugs. This can result in a spiral of depression.
Cannabis can help you relax, but there's evidence that it can also bring on depression, particularly in teenagers.
"Drowning your sorrows" with a drink is also not recommended. Alcohol affects the chemistry of the brain, which increases the risk of depression.

Illness​

You may have a higher risk of depression if you have a longstanding or life-threatening illness, such as coronary heart disease or cancer.
Head injuries are also an often under-recognised cause of depression. A severe head injury can trigger mood swings and emotional problems.
Some people may have an underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism) resulting from problems with their immune system. In rarer cases, a minor head injury can damage the pituitary gland, which is a pea-sized gland at the base of your brain that produces thyroid-stimulating hormones.
This can cause a number of symptoms, such as extreme tiredness and a lack of interest in sex (loss of libido), which can in turn lead to depression
 
ChicagoBlue said:
The precipitating “illness” is illusory.

He CREATED one by his own actions. Self harm creates many real, identifiable and treatable illnesses.

Hey, if you want to create mental illness out of thin air, knock yourself out. But, all I see (from the info originally provided) is a bloke drowning his sorrows, letting it get out of hand and affecting his financial health, too.

You guys pay for his upkeep. No skin off my nose if you want to live in and support the Nanny State. Sounds like it’s working out just dandy!
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Probably the most heartless post I have ever read.
 
pride in battle said:
A few years ago I was giving out food and drink out to the homeless in Manchester and got talking to a middle aged guy, very well spoken, he had split up from his wife, was an ex solicitor, now he was on the streets.
Fucking mental and incredibly sad...
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Funny how quite a few ex armed forces end up on the streets, homeless and in a shit place etc, suppose they need to ‘grow a pair’, ‘ get some backbone’ too according to some :-S

There’s a misconception (with some) we all start from the same base and capability to deal with adversity, which simply isn’t true, we all have differing strengths and weaknesses to deal with different things, there’s no straight line in it.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
As described, it’s self-inflicted wound conveniently lumped into a MASSIVE, AND GROWING, group of illnesses.

DSM-5 definition of mental disorder:

A mental disorder is a syndrome characterized by clinically significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotion regulation, or behavior that reflects a dysfunction in the psychological, biological, or development processes underlying mental functioning


The W.H.O. definition:

A mental disorder is characterized by a clinically significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotional regulation, or behaviour. It is usually associated with distress or impairment in important areas of functioning.


If pining for a leg over and drowning your sorrows is the threshold, then we will all be out on Disability and they’ll be no-one left to pay the bennies!
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Once a person falls into that quagmire of self pity reinforced by alcohol and other drugs, surrounded by similar ne'er do well types it must be nearly impossible to turn your life around.
One day at a time....
 
journolud said:
Too many generalisations already on this thread. Although I am also generalising.
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I was actually thinking the same thing. I think it’s wrong to assume the people you pass sleeping in a doorway are all drug addicts and/or alcoholics. They may well be, but which came first and why are all individual stories.
I think the current economic climate here in Ireland and Europe generally I suppose has seen a huge increase in people on the streets in Dublin. It’s noticeable.

Some choose to take their chances sleeping through the day as much as they can, and stay awake through the night, as they feel safer that way than taking a hostel bed.
That’s a sad indictment of the services on offer.

I pass an increasing amount of people sleeping in doorways as I walk through the north side of the inner city on my way to work.
They could be dead and who’d know.

It’s a sad world at times.
 
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