Hooliganism and Violence Maine Road 80's/early 90's

[bernard o'silver]

All those things were certainly factors in countering it. But I think the one single biggest factor in changing people’s attitude was Hillsborough.

I think a lot of people lost their appetite for causing trouble at football, overnight after watching that.

Possibly a lot did , however trouble still went on, the 5-1 at Maine Road in September 1989 some six months after Hillsborough, and the return fixture at Old Trafford in February 1990, saw some of the worst outbreaks of violence during and after Derby matches . I seem to recall the Crown and Kettle pub on the corner of Great Ancoats Street was closed for some time having been extensively damaged after the OT derby that season following clashes between City and United .

 

[train man]

... I seem to recall the Crown and Kettle pub on the corner of Great Ancoats Street was closed for some time having been extensively damaged after the OT derby that season following clashes between City and United .

and they still haven't fixed the ceiling..!! ;0)

 

[Eds]

Were they wearing laced up boots and corduroys

Donkey jackets I think.

 

[AJ71]

Wasn’t that the same day of our 5-1, & the Bradford fire? rip

Yes I think it was.

 

[Sid C]

Donkey jackets I think.

Bulldog?

 

[El Gringo]

Yeah probably.
I found myself going to Shelley's in Stoke, Hard Times in Huddersfield, Eclipse in Coventry etc etc as well as following City everywhere.
So probably too fooked to fight in the 90s.
The 80s were raw, undiluted terrace/club warfare.
Looking back at 55 now I'm still glad I lived through so much

Ah....Shelleys...the chaos in Knutsford services that always ensued on the way bay from there was legendary, lots of Microdots, Super Smileys and the rest..Great days, still be tripping come 3pm

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Think it’s the same anywhere. Not just football.

I’ve walked in pubs and can just tell within seconds that there’s a ‘it’s about to kick off’ vibe about the place.

So true. And the problem is when you walk into a pub like that you have to stay for at least one drink because if you just turn turtle the locals will smell the fear. Drink up quick and then get out as if you are a local.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Possibly a lot did , however trouble still went on, the 5-1 at Maine Road in September 1989 some six months after Hillsborough, and the return fixture at Old Trafford in February 1990, saw some of the worst outbreaks of violence during and after Derby matches . I seem to recall the Crown and Kettle pub on the corner of Great Ancoats Street was closed for some time having been extensively damaged after the OT derby that season following clashes between City and United .

Still one of the biggest and best Blue pubs in Manchester though.

 

[mancityvstoke]

 

[failsworthblueboy]

This one was notorious, a young lad died.

I witnessed as sickening incident at Birmingham I think it was late 80's / early 90's it was a night match, I went with a work mate KY, after the game we turned left instead of right hoping to avoid trouble, and found ourselves being chased by a couple of hundred Birmingham fans, at the top of the road the Police were putting City fans into a Police escort back to the New Street Station.
The Police wanted to leave us about 200yds from the Station it felt so dodgy but a senior officer made them march us all the way in to the Station.
They had delayed the train for us we all had to queue up train ticket or not.
We were inside the ticket office not 2 minutes after we had started queuing a fella just in front of me reached forward making a slashing movement the scream was awful, about 3 of them ran for the doors and got out they had slashed a City fan down the right side of his face, a really sickening experience I still think of the poor fella today scarred for life by shithouses.
The Birmingham fans were in our escort all the way to the station.