They were dark times back then & no amount or romancing about it or glorifying it or looking at it through rose tinted glasses can change the fact that ordinary people in many towns & City's were terrified when away fans came calling
Pubs were smashed up ,women & children were left cowering in fear with fans running riot
Trains were wrecked on a regular basis costing 10's of thousands of pounds to repair
Every match day saw coaches up & down the country bricked with windows put through & the people on the coaches left terrified
Fans were killed & seriously injured just because they supported certain clubs
Women & children who were only out shopping were injured in various skirmishes
Shops,service stations ,off
off licences were ransacked on a regular basis
Police,Stewards & innocent bystanders were injured every week
I'm no shrinking violet and have been involved in some stuff mainly in the 70's but some on here are portraying ,hooligans,firms ,mobs ext as latter day Robin Hoods which couldn't be farther than the truth
Looking back & watching old clips & newspaper cuttings
It's like " What the Fu*k" were we thinking ?
Any way just glad that fans ( most of the time) can go to games without fear of getting smashed in the head by a brick ,battered or getting the shit kicked out of them just because they supported a different club
Great post. And gets to the crux of the matter.
I have always maintained that anyone who went rampaging as part of a mob was a complete coward and I have a simple test for anyone who still insists on glorifying the good old days of beating up women and children for sport:
If you were walking round town on a Saturday in the off season and saw a 6’4”, well-built 25 year old walking around wearing an opponents football shirt would you go up to him and offer him a straight, one to one, fight? If not (and let’s be very honest, none of these members of “a firm” would dream of ever having a fair fight - they only fight when they outnumber their opponents 4 or 5 to one) but you would fight him during the season if you had five lads with you for every one one of him, then you’re a bully and a coward.
The number of people you hear, even today, trying to claim that they never went looking for it but only joined in because they were “protecting their fellow fans” is a joke. I’d respect them more if they told the truth “well, I’m a bit of a coward in normal life (nothing wrong with that by the way, it’s called being normal), but when I have 100 fellow lads around me I quite like beating the shit out of young kids and women, older dads and that, and I bloody love smashing up shops and businesses and dragging the name of our club through the mud, cos, you know, “the 80’s” and that, but when I come up against someone of similar stature, in similar numbers, what I do right, is jump
about a lot with my arms outstretched and then run like fuck away as fast as I can, smashing up shops and passersby as I flee as fast as my knuckles can drag me”
The fact that this thread exists on this forum, and I’m certain in similar guises on pretty much every other clubs forums, is depressing.
The truth is that hooligans were, are, and always will be, shithouses, bullies, and cowards. One of the very very very few things I have ever been able to give credit to the conservative governments of the 80’s was the way they destroyed in large part the “firms”. Including our own.