Hostage situation in Sydney

[Bluemanc100]

The frustrating thing is that all this lot were in the same place at the same time and nothing was done. Should have been dealt with then and there. (Sydney, 2012)

Funny how someone can call for be headings and nothing gets done but if a white Australian was to hold a banner saying "Muslims are murders" they would be arrested its a pity freedom of speech only seems to work one way.
We are way too lenient with all extremists in the west and people need to know even in a Civilized Society there are limits to freedoms.

Governments across the Civilized World need to re-evaluate punishments for terrorists and anyone advocating the use of terror
we need much more severe punishments for the animals who commit such crimes.

This is what pisses me off the most........... we are far too lenient

The Australians have a reputation I think for straight talk so let's see what the outcome is there

Hopefully it will set the tone on what is deemed acceptable

 

[foetus]

Just read a tweet from Aus defence league. Seems like bogans gonna take matters into their own hands. Me think there will be cronulla riots part 2.

And once again, white Australians as a whole will be made to look like the villains...not the Muslims kidknapping, threatening to behead innocents and bashing lifeguards. Not condoning any violence towards innocent Muslims but they don't help themselves. Unfortunately it doesn't take much to trigger something when there is already ignorance, boredom and racial tension present.

That sentence is pretty much like - I am not racist but.. would you define how innocent Muslims are not helping themselves? How could they help themselves? By stop being Muslims to satisfy braindeads from defence leagues?

Just stating the fact that practising a religion that breeds these extremists tarnishes you somewhat even if you are completely innocent. Fear and paranoia do crazy things.

 

[WyongBlue]

Further update.........Some buildings nearby are now being re-open, the 5 escaped hostages are now being interviewed by the Police to see what is occurring inside the café, the Police has not revealed what the motive is by the gunman...............

Further update..........The outgoing Director of ASIO over here in Australia, has gone on record as saying that the biggest threat for Australia at the moment is the "Lone Wolf Scenario", and this is what seems to be happening [ only my opinion ].................

 

[billymumphrey]

And once again, white Australians as a whole will be made to look like the villains...not the Muslims kidknapping, threatening to behead innocents and bashing lifeguards. Not condoning any violence towards innocent Muslims but they don't help themselves. Unfortunately it doesn't take much to trigger something when there is already ignorance, boredom and racial tension present.

That sentence is pretty much like - I am not racist but.. would you define how innocent Muslims are not helping themselves? How could they help themselves? By stop being Muslims to satisfy braindeads from defence leagues?

Just stating the fact that practising a religion that breeds these extremists tarnishes you somewhat even if you are completely innocent. Fear and paranoia do crazy things.

What do you mean when you say - they don't help themselves?

 

[oakiecokie]

A gunman has taken dozens of people hostage in a cafe in Sydney's financial district.

Two Arabic flags similar to those used by Islamic State have been seen inside the Lindt cafe in Martin Place.

Channel Ten has spoken to two hostages who say the gunman claims to have four bombs - two inside the cafe and two in the financial district.

Police are investigating reports the assailant has used hostages' social media accounts to demand a meeting with Australian Prime Minster Tony Abbott.

It is now thought police know the identity of the man - and that he was previously known to both the Sydney force and media.

Some of the hostages have spoken to their families on mobile phones - while five, three male customers and two female staff, have managed to escape since the siege began more than ten hours ago.

Journalist Chris Reason, who has a view of the cafe from the 7 News building, said the gunman was "extremely agitated" when the hostages fled.

"All the hostages now huddled at one end of Lindt Cafe, one is covering the window at that end with an apron," Mr Reason tweeted.

"From inside Martin Place we can see the faces of hostages - pained, strained, eyes red and raw. One young with head in hands.

"From inside Martin Place newsroom we can see gunman is rotating hostages, forcing them to stand against windows, sometimes 2 hours at a time."

:: Follow live updates of the siege

Australian police said negotiators had been in contact with the "armed offender" - but refused to speculate on his motivation.

The gunman - who has contacted several media outlets from the cafe and reportedly wants an IS flag delivered there - has been seen using hostages as human shields.

New South Wales Police deputy commissioner Catherine Burn described it as a "sensitive negotiation" and said there was nothing to suggest anyone had been harmed.

Food has now been taken into the cafe for the hostages.

Martin Place - home to the Reserve Bank of Australia, commercial banks and close to the New South Wales state parliament - has been closed off and up to 100 heavily armed police are surrounding the area.

Earlier, live television footage showed patrons inside the cafe standing with their hands pressed against the windows.

Hostages were also seen holding a black flag with white Arabic text.

According to reports, the gunman, who is wearing a black headband with white writing on it, walked into the cafe just before 10am local time.

A Lindt executive said there were about 10 staff and "probably 30 customers" in the cafe - but police later said the number was "not as high as 30", although they did not give further details.

The Australian Prime Minister said he has convened the National Security Committee for emergency briefings following the "hostage-taking situation".

"This is obviously a deeply concerning incident but all Australians should be reassured that our law enforcement and security agencies are well trained and equipped and are responding in a thorough and professional manner," said Mr Abbott.

Mr Abbott said he did not yet know the motivation of those holding the hostages, adding: "Our thoughts and prayers must above all go out to the individuals who are caught up in this.

"I can think of almost nothing more distressing or terrifying than to be caught up in such a situation, and our hearts go out to those people."

Police have now confirmed they are working "on a footing" it is a terrorist incident - but they remain confident a peaceful resolution can be achieved.

Several buildings in the area have been evacuated, including the Channel 7 newsroom opposite the cafe, and staff at the Reserve Bank of Australia are in lockdown inside the building. All are said to be safe.

Meanwhile, Sydney Opera House has been evacuated after a suspicious package was reportedly found not long after the police operation in the financial district began.

Police confirmed they were dealing with an "incident" there, but said it was not linked to events at the cafe.

In a separate development, a 25-year-old man was arrested on alleged terrorism offences in the city just a few hours before the siege began.

He was seized as part of "continuing investigations into the planning of a terrorist attack on Australian soil and the facilitation of travel of Australian citizens to Syria to engage in armed combat".

The arrest - reportedly as he left a prayer hall - comes after the Australian government in September raised its terror threat level and con

 

[Citizen in Pakistan]

And once again, white Australians as a whole will be made to look like the villains...not the Muslims kidknapping, threatening to behead innocents and bashing lifeguards. Not condoning any violence towards innocent Muslims but they don't help themselves. Unfortunately it doesn't take much to trigger something when there is already ignorance, boredom and racial tension present.

That sentence is pretty much like - I am not racist but.. would you define how innocent Muslims are not helping themselves? How could they help themselves? By stop being Muslims to satisfy braindeads from defence leagues?

Just stating the fact that practising a religion that breeds these extremists tarnishes you somewhat even if you are completely innocent. Fear and paranoia do crazy things.

There have been extremist in every religion and I don't need to go into that you could look it up if you like ...
Secondly its just a small element which is less than 1% of the total Muslim ppopulation that indulge in such activities ,so I don't think a sane mind should call all the Muslim extremist or Islam as a problem,the problem is only such crack heads get the publicity and the media basically ignores all the other peace loving Muslims,there are Muslims who are playing an active role in UK govt ,there are Muslima like Amir Khan the boxer who have brought honor to UK ,moen ali the cricketr and countless other stories and if we talk about our own club the sheikh itself,players like yahya,samir Nasri and other top professionals around the world ...
Islam clearly states that if you kill one innocent person its like killing whole of humanity irrespective of religion,
So as a Muslim I cam really assure these Isis crack heads/ass h&*** / there anything but Muslims and after al Qaeda the ppl who want to make this world fucked up needed something New to keep there agendas going and you have Isis now ,and they would do anything to keep them in the news no matter what happens ,and all this Isis group is doing is just defaming the Muslims and the religion ....

I hope and pray every one of those hostages is brought back safely from the terrible situation and prayers go to there family aswell

 

[foetus]

 

[oakiecokie]

That sentence is pretty much like - I am not racist but.. would you define how innocent Muslims are not helping themselves? How could they help themselves? By stop being Muslims to satisfy braindeads from defence leagues?

Just stating the fact that practising a religion that breeds these extremists tarnishes you somewhat even if you are completely innocent. Fear and paranoia do crazy things.

There have been extremist in every religion and I don't need to go into that you could look it up if you like ...
Secondly its just a small element which is less than 1% of the total Muslim ppopulation that indulge in such activities ,so I don't think a sane mind should call all the Muslim extremist or Islam as a problem,the problem is only such crack heads get the publicity and the media basically ignores all the other peace loving Muslims,there are Muslims who are playing an active role in UK govt ,there are Muslima like Amir Khan the boxer who have brought honor to UK ,moen ali the cricketr and countless other stories and if we talk about our own club the sheikh itself,players like yahya,samir Nasri and other top professionals around the world ...
Islam clearly states that if you kill one innocent person its like killing whole of humanity irrespective of religion,
So as a Muslim I cam really assure these Isis crack heads/ass h&*** / there anything but Muslims and after al Qaeda the ppl who want to make this world fucked up needed something New to keep there agendas going and you have Isis now ,and they would do anything to keep them in the news no matter what happens ,and all this Isis group is doing is just defaming the Muslims and the religion ....

I hope and pray every one of those hostages is brought back safely from the terrible situation and prayers go to there family aswell

Pisses me off how they hide behind "religion".We still have it here in the UK in Ireland with factions of Caths and Prossies.Unfortunately their God/s have a lot to answer for.

 

[oakiecokie]

Aren`t all Aussies ? ;)

 

[TangerineSteve17]

Man I hope nobody dies and this kind of thing never happens again. Absolute madness.