How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[talkativesprout]

Think its a bit soon to judge personally...How was the first decade after joining the common market? Stable?

 

[WestGorton]

It's a disaster. We don't even recognise human rights now and are opting out of that too.

 

[blueinsa]

Who the fuck dictates we are only allowed one?
Especially after Brexit.

We will have another. Then it will be up to the competence of the Independence supporting parties to outline the benefits of a credible road map to Independence compared to a future determined by the status quo. It’s not just one path that has massive risks attached to it. Both do.

You are getting all excited and sweary.

What part of me saying very clearly absolutely Scotland has the right to decide did you miss?

Me wanting a different outcome to you should not be twisted into me deciding it’s not happening.

 

[meltonblue]

I would assume every current and future EU member considers itself an independent country, when the UK was a member I never felt anything less than independent. In the sane way it would be entirely compatible for an independent Scotland to apply for EU membership and still consider itself independent.

Exactly and particularly pre brexit, the relationship they’d have wanted with the rest of the uk would have been very similar to what some in mainland Europe have with each other.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Flesh it out mate? If it’s towards refugees/Rawanda then it’s a shocking policy that I hope never happens but that is an immigration issue/policy and not really UK foreign policy imo.

Are you on the sauce?
not foreign policy?
Whos plan is it?

Aside from that, a policy that refuses to admit that there are significant problems trading with what was our largest foreign market and will not engage seriously in trying to fix them is really clever.

How about a policy to break elements of the GFA. Top notch.

Should we talk about Afghanistan?

 

[Vic]

Good points. The cake is only I size and if the Public Sector pay and welfare increases it has to be paid for by the private sector. I do agree benefits should increased in the difficult times we live in,but I also strongly believe those who can work should work and not be paid to sit at home all day and do nothing. I could be wrong but I think the triple lock has been suspended, particularly with inflation as it is. As regards lodgers, if your talking about me personally I don’t think anyone would want to live in the middle of nowhere and have to rely on non existent public transport. Other pensioners haven’t probably got the spare rooms.

If you are still there, you're now complaining about the cost of council tax on your big house in the country? I bet you support the bedroom tax too.

 

[blueparrot]

Exactly and particularly pre brexit, the relationship they’d have wanted with the rest of the uk would have been very similar to what some in mainland Europe have with each other.

I’d believed for a while a federal UK would head of any prospect of an independence issue, in all the devolved areas, I think now though Brexit and this particular governments version of Brexit have killed off, for now anyway, any prospect of such a solution.

 

[blueinsa]

Are you on the sauce?
not foreign policy?
Whos plan is it?

Aside from that, a policy that refuses to admit that there are significant problems trading with what was our largest foreign market and will not engage seriously in trying to fix them is really clever.

How about a policy to break elements of the GFA. Top notch.

Should we talk about Afghanistan?

So trade policy then? Yep agree, brexit has been a disaster, happy to admit it.

Our approach to the GFA of late is a disaster so again, agree completely.

Afghanistan? Happy to chat but probably not in here but at least it would be about an actual foreign policy.

 

[Vic]

Tell me one thing a politician has ever done that has been life changing for you personally, just one,you don’t have to struggle with a list

I assume you meant good things, not things like Brexit.

Free orange juice. Decades of free health care. Bus pass.

But then I vote for politicians who want to change other people's lives for the better. And frankly that seems to be where we differ. You're a capitalist dream, motivated entirely by self-interest, with not even a Protestant work ethic as a redemptive feature.

Come into the light, brother.

 

[Saddleworth2]

So trade policy then? Yep agree, brexit has been a disaster, happy to admit it.

Our approach to the GFA of late is a disaster so again, agree completely.

Afghanistan? Happy to chat but probably not in here but at least it would be about an actual foreign policy.

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