How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

God help us all if 45-54 is now classed as FOC.

I take the point made though.
The data and pattern continued beyond that, just not in the same easy to read format.

I've posted a more complete graph below
 
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I don’t think many 45 -55 year olds are brexit supporters, I’m certainly not and my social group is not, I hate to say this and I know I will get pelters for this, but rather than demographics, I would look at educational attainment as a better metric
How different age groups voted


A higher proportion of older people actually voted so that skewed the vote, but age is definitely a factor. I hardly know any young people who wanted to leave, but the older generation like my wife's parents remember things as being better when they were young - ie before EU membership - and never understood what Europe was about.
 
I don’t think many 45 -55 year olds are brexit supporters, I’m certainly not and my social group is not, I hate to say this and I know I will get pelters for this, but rather than demographics, I would look at educational attainment as a better metric


You shouldn't get pelters for suggesting anything at all mate because you MAY have a point, youngsters were sold a dream that they could travel anywhere they wanted (OK as long as they showed their passports) and that they could live where they wanted.

Older people who were educated or had skills could already work where they wanted and live where they wanted they didn't need permission just a transferable skill.

Education in its highest form is admirable and a pretty tough achievement but so many of todays educated would probably struggle to get good grades at grammar level.
 
It’s quite a simplistic argument, much of the brexit vote came from disaffected towns that became the red wall for the tories

just because it's simple doesn't make it any less of an argument. The graph I posted showed how much of a difference there was based on age, and it doesn't mean that there weren't other factors at play. The two elements together delivered the result we got, ie Disaffected poorer voters who thought it might stop foreigners coming in and keeping their warehouse wages low together with older voters who fondly remembered their youth as a better time. Remove either one and you get a different result.
 
You shouldn't get pelters for suggesting anything at all mate because you MAY have a point, youngsters were sold a dream that they could travel anywhere they wanted (OK as long as they showed their passports) and that they could live where they wanted.

Older people who were educated or had skills could already work where they wanted and live where they wanted they didn't need permission just a transferable skill.

Education in its highest form is admirable and a pretty tough achievement but so many of todays educated would probably struggle to get good grades at grammar level.
Wow, what a cuntish thing to say.

Everybody who isn’t old is undereducated.
 
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just because it's simple doesn't make it any less of an argument. The graph I posted showed how much of a difference there was based on age, and it doesn't mean that there weren't other factors at play. The two elements together delivered the result we got, ie Disaffected poorer voters who thought it might stop foreigners coming in and keeping their warehouse wages low together with older voters who fondly remembered their youth as a better time. Remove either one and you get a different result.
Not forgetting remain voters not turning out
 
You shouldn't get pelters for suggesting anything at all mate because you MAY have a point, youngsters were sold a dream that they could travel anywhere they wanted (OK as long as they showed their passports) and that they could live where they wanted.

Older people who were educated or had skills could already work where they wanted and live where they wanted they didn't need permission just a transferable skill.

Education in its highest form is admirable and a pretty tough achievement but so many of todays educated would probably struggle to get good grades at grammar level.
Sorry but pre EU you did need permission even post EU there are limits on movement. Have to not be a burden register in many places. Also certain qualifications are not recognized so you won’t be able to work in certain professions.

Can you please elaborate on your point about the youth basically not having transferable skills education etc. I think a lot of the older expats in EU are retired people with average or less qualifications. Younger people by the very nature of the modern world will have to have more professional qualifications do more continued professional development. More likely to have been to University. Even the supposedly old fashioned trades that young people apparently don’t do probably have an theoretical upper limit age wise due to physicality
 
Sorry but pre EU you did need permission even post EU there are limits on movement. Have to not be a burden register in many places. Also certain qualifications are not recognized so you won’t be able to work in certain professions.

Can you please elaborate on your point about the youth basically not having transferable skills education etc. I think a lot of the older expats in EU are retired people with average or less qualifications. Younger people by the very nature of the modern world will have to have more professional qualifications do more continued professional development. More likely to have been to University. Even the supposedly old fashioned trades that young people apparently don’t do probably have an theoretical upper limit age wise due to physicality


Mate media studies IMHO isn't a skill, all you needed back in the day was no criminal record and a backbone and you could travel pretty most anywhere.

Oh, going to University isn't a measure of intelligence anymore. This isn't a dig at young people they are just young people I am just stating a fact that you could travel in the 60's and 70's without the permission of the EU.
 
Mate media studies IMHO isn't a skill, all you needed back in the day was no criminal record and a backbone and you could travel pretty most anywhere.

Oh, going to University isn't a measure of intelligence anymore. This isn't a dig at young people they are just young people I am just stating a fact that you could travel in the 60's and 70's without the permission of the EU.
We had border checks before the EEC and you didn’t have the right to live where you wanted even now you have to not be a burden and cannot transfer your qualifications

How are you measuring intelligence ? Or transferable skills ?

Let’s assume you can go to university and study something worthless and be not very intelligent and voted remain. How do you compare this persons intelligence with let’s say a guy who is 60 voted leave. Did a trade but never studied anything maybe didn’t travel and see the world as much ?

You seem to be assuming young people are thick because they are young maybe not as experienced but at what point are we going to stop labeling them this ? 21 25 30 40 50 ?

Conversely older people often have had a more insular education and travelled less. Perhaps less likely to research the wider world
 
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