How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

That's the disparity I find as well, and I think it's just that when a particular view takes over a thread, people with the opposite view just leave it alone.

I think there's loads of brexiteers left on here who just aren't commenting in this thread.
I tend to leave it when I get swamped by the "baa baa rainbow sheep, these days you get thrown in jail just for saying you're English" on the culture war threads so seems fair enough.
 
That's the disparity I find as well, and I think it's just that when a particular view takes over a thread, people with the opposite view just leave it alone.

I think there's loads of brexiteers left on here who just aren't commenting in this thread.

Most of the pro brexit posters don't bother anymore as they are on a hiding to nothing at present.

In one or two cases,change their username just to be on the safe side.
 
There are few brexit supporters left on the forum because we can now see that there can be no logical, rational cogent defence of brexit.
If there were one, then they could come on here and say so. They’d be very welcome.
Yes , there are a lot of left leaning contributors on this thread and I am one.
However, you do not need to have any political bias to see what an epic clusterfuck brexit is. You simply need the ability to observe, understand , and analyse facts and exercise some critical thinking.
I haven’t found this thread before. It is very cheering to read all of your views. Well thought through arguments and evidence based. Brexit will be recorded by history as the start of devastating period of damage to the nation through the systematic undermining of our democratic processes and a power grab by the executive (i.e. The Conservatives) . I look forward to reading more.
 
There are few brexit supporters left on the forum because we can now see that there can be no logical, rational cogent defence of brexit.
If there were one, then they could come on here and say so. They’d be very welcome.
Yes , there are a lot of left leaning contributors on this thread and I am one.
However, you do not need to have any political bias to see what an epic clusterfuck brexit is. You simply need the ability to observe, understand , and analyse facts and exercise some critical thinking.

I voted to leave. Was utterly convinced it was the right thing for the nation.

Can now see it was a disastrous decision I and 17 million others made.

Nothing and I really do mean nothing good has come of the vote so far. Will the future reap the benefits promised? Perhaps with greater political leadership but that is simply never going to happen.

At a minimum we should rejoin the single market immediately.
 
I voted to leave. Was utterly convinced it was the right thing for the nation.

Can now see it was a disastrous decision I and 17 million others made.

Nothing and I really do mean nothing good has come of the vote so far. Will the future reap the benefits promised? Perhaps with greater political leadership but that is simply never going to happen.

At a minimum we should rejoin the single market immediately.
You were lied to and manipulated. Cummings, Johnson, Murdoch even Crag Face all responsible.
 
Thing on tv news today about a gastro pub in Oxfordshire struggling to open . Only at the end of the clip did the manager mention that he’d lost Polish staff who were now unwilling or unable to return due to all the paperwork and red tape.
Getting staff across the hospitality industry atm is a fucking nightmare, due significantly to the number of Eastern Europeans who have gone home since Brexit - and there are plenty of operators who have shelved expansion plans because they think there’s no point in opening new sites if they can’t get staff.

It’s the same with door staff, many of whom came from Eastern Europe.

What a fucking abortion.

What the fuck did people expect to happen?
 
I voted to leave. Was utterly convinced it was the right thing for the nation.

Can now see it was a disastrous decision I and 17 million others made.

Nothing and I really do mean nothing good has come of the vote so far. Will the future reap the benefits promised? Perhaps with greater political leadership but that is simply never going to happen.

At a minimum we should rejoin the single market immediately.


Agreed .... but we cant do that without accepting Freedom of Movement of Labour......so it wont happen because R.....M
 
I voted to leave. Was utterly convinced it was the right thing for the nation.

Can now see it was a disastrous decision I and 17 million others made.

Nothing and I really do mean nothing good has come of the vote so far. Will the future reap the benefits promised? Perhaps with greater political leadership but that is simply never going to happen.

At a minimum we should rejoin the single market immediately.
We were going to be liberated from excessive red tape.
There was going to be millions of £s for the NHS.
No more johnny foreigners.
We had the whole of the rest of the world to trade with too.

Other than the ill concealed bullshit,
the effects of unintended consequences have been highlighted.

You are a brave person to admit that you were wrong.
Bravo!
 

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