How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Back in 2020, the UK was receiving £1.8B per year from the European Regional Development Fund and European Social Fund, amongs others.

This money was used by, amongst others Glasgow, Liverpool, Manchester, Northern Ireland and Wales to help the most deprived communities and help build infrastructure and attract investment. Looking round Manchester, I think we did pretty well out of this.

There was somewhere in Wales, either Llanelli or Pwllheli which benefitted the most from this funding. I think they voted pro Brexit and pro Tory.

Lot of non traditional support for the myth of Brexit hence redwall, metric martyr. If they're still able to feed their children or clothe them, maybe they'll wonder what happened to the UK Shared Prosperity Fund?

Just googled it and the fund comes up in connection with

the Greater London Authority,
Aberdeen City Council,
St Alban's City and District Council,
Blaby District Council,
Denbighshire County Council,
Somerset County Council,
Pendle Borough Council,
South Yorkshire MCA,
Liverpool City Region Combined
North Yorkshire County Council

Then I googled who received funding from the UK Shared Prosperity Fund:

South East England £9.2m
North East England £4.9m

Only £107.4m of the £4.8b fund actually spent last year.

Shitty Rishy on the campaign trail this summer proudly boasted he had changed the funding formulas to divert money from deprived areas, to spend more in leafy Tunbridge Wells, FFS.

The real meaning of levelling up.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Apparently, if you ‘behave’ and ’have nothing to hide’ you have nothing to fear! Trouble is, when many of the population blindly say things like that, the game is almost up….
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Yes, you could survive that way in Nazi Germany as long as 'behaving' was to conform with whatever Adolf and his mates said. People have no fucking idea.
 
BrianW said:
Yes, you could survive that way in Nazi Germany as long as 'behaving' was to conform with whatever Adolf and his mates said. People have no fucking idea.
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Carrying ID cards sounds ok until it’s made an offence not to have it with you...CCTV watcjing your every move might seem like a good idea until doing something you’ve always done is suddenly made illegal on the whim of a politician.
ID to vote sounds ok but it’s not and is nothing other than voter suppression.
You only have to reflect back to the ’laws‘ they made up over covid restrictions, with no discussion or debate, to realise how fragile freedom is and yet many people seem happy to see it pissed up a wall because ‘it’ll never affect them’.……..
 
BrianW said:
The people who hate human rights never imagine they might one day need that protection. They assume human rights only exist to protect people they dislike such as criminals and immigrants. In truth, the concept protects us all and is one of the few protections we have against arbitrary government.

Always remember - even if you like this arbitrary government, the day may dawn when you get an arbitrary government you definitely do not like.
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Sounds like the DUP who wouldn’t support the GFA now quoting it as their protection against the NIP which they did support.
 
Brexit added £210 to the average household food bill in the two years to the end of 2021, new research suggests.
Academics at the London School of Economics (LSE) found that the cost of food imported from Europe went up because of extra red tape and checks.
They said that rule changes for items going across the border had pushed food prices up by 6%, or £5.84bn overall.
A government spokesperson said that it was cutting costs and reducing red tape for firms.
The research noted that UK food producers had faced reduced competition since Brexit.
Researchers at the LSE's Centre for Economic Performance (CEP) looked at data tracking the flow of trade and prices of food products between the UK and the European Union (EU) to work out how shoppers were being affected by the UK's exit.
It also found that price rises hit poorest households hardest because they spend more of their pay packets on food.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63821133
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Brexit added £210 to the average household food bill in the two years to the end of 2021, new research suggests.
Academics at the London School of Economics (LSE) found that the cost of food imported from Europe went up because of extra red tape and checks.
They said that rule changes for items going across the border had pushed food prices up by 6%, or £5.84bn overall.
A government spokesperson said that it was cutting costs and reducing red tape for firms.
The research noted that UK food producers had faced reduced competition since Brexit.
Researchers at the LSE's Centre for Economic Performance (CEP) looked at data tracking the flow of trade and prices of food products between the UK and the European Union (EU) to work out how shoppers were being affected by the UK's exit.
It also found that price rises hit poorest households hardest because they spend more of their pay packets on food.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63821133
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Is that weekly or monthly?

;-)
 
It has to be said the more damage Brexit does and the more bleating I see from business leaders etc for whom a quick Google shows they were supporters of Brexit - and farmers and fishermen and red wall seats and south coast seats and all of them means I just don't care about them. I was one of hundreds of thousands probably millions who told them what a bad idea it was and how it would affect them and were shouted down as "project fear" and you now have some of them regretting it or worse still denying it all and saying it was all done wrongly I now think well fuck you - I don't care if you lose the farm or the trawler or the business you own goes bust if you feel the pain then thats good coz maybe you need to educate yourself on how the world and the world of trade actually works. And as we tumble down the G7 ranking and lose our position in the world just own that just accept that is what you have done - I will take the £210 hit on my food bill as long as you take the collapse of your business and we can both accept why
 
They have avoided those costs by having no checks and tariffs on imported goods - something which quite soon will be the subject of WTO rules and upon which they will have to act because at the moment we give the EU - not the rest of the world - preferential treatment to by not doing that - Rees-Mogg is a liar and a truth twister

 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Brexit added £210 to the average household food bill in the two years to the end of 2021, new research suggests.
Academics at the London School of Economics (LSE) found that the cost of food imported from Europe went up because of extra red tape and checks.
They said that rule changes for items going across the border had pushed food prices up by 6%, or £5.84bn overall.
A government spokesperson said that it was cutting costs and reducing red tape for firms.
The research noted that UK food producers had faced reduced competition since Brexit.
Researchers at the LSE's Centre for Economic Performance (CEP) looked at data tracking the flow of trade and prices of food products between the UK and the European Union (EU) to work out how shoppers were being affected by the UK's exit.
It also found that price rises hit poorest households hardest because they spend more of their pay packets on food.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63821133
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Of all the arguments that were ventilated around the referendum I found the red tape one to be the most preposterous. It was obvious, in terms of trading with Europe, that it was going to go up.
 
bluethrunthru said:
They have avoided those costs by having no checks and tariffs on imported goods - something which quite soon will be the subject of WTO rules and upon which they will have to act because at the moment we give the EU - not the rest of the world - preferential treatment to by not doing that - Rees-Mogg is a liar and a truth twister

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Democratic accountability ffs!
 
bluethrunthru said:
It has to be said the more damage Brexit does and the more bleating I see from business leaders etc for whom a quick Google shows they were supporters of Brexit - and farmers and fishermen and red wall seats and south coast seats and all of them means I just don't care about them. I was one of hundreds of thousands probably millions who told them what a bad idea it was and how it would affect them and were shouted down as "project fear" and you now have some of them regretting it or worse still denying it all and saying it was all done wrongly I now think well fuck you - I don't care if you lose the farm or the trawler or the business you own goes bust if you feel the pain then thats good coz maybe you need to educate yourself on how the world and the world of trade actually works. And as we tumble down the G7 ranking and lose our position in the world just own that just accept that is what you have done - I will take the £210 hit on my food bill as long as you take the collapse of your business and we can both accept why
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In a way I suppose we are all like politicians ie able to say opposites to suit circumstances but you are absolutely correct.
As others have said on here our politicians have a lot of maturity to happen to them along with businesses needing to adapt to Brexit s consequences.
 
Well said, Jacob. You are now responsible and accountable: So, ‘dare I ask’, how much more, precisely, do these aggrandised savings add up to? Is it more or less than the incurred losses?
 
bluethrunthru said:
They have avoided those costs by having no checks and tariffs on imported goods - something which quite soon will be the subject of WTO rules and upon which they will have to act because at the moment we give the EU - not the rest of the world - preferential treatment to by not doing that - Rees-Mogg is a liar and a truth twister

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I’m sure the great unwashed don’t mind their food bills going up, didn’t the right honourable gentleman Reece-Mogg promise us we’d all end up with cheap trainers?
 
The government is set to miss its target for securing post-Brexit trade agreements, as figures show a 15% fall in the number of UK exporters.
At the 2019 election the Conservatives promised to get agreements covering 80% of UK trade by the end of this year.
The most recent figures suggest it will be just 63%.
A government source said a trade deal with the US had been crucial to meeting the target, but the Biden administration was not prioritising it.
The government also set a target this year to agree a free trade deal with India by Diwali, on 12 November, which was missed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63808657
 
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