How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Brewster's millions said:
If only we’d known that the Paris auction houses might get a slight, very marginal advantage post-Brexit.

Just might have made the difference.
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If it was provided as an example rather than the sole consequence, and people accepted it as true, then I expect it probably would have made a meaningful difference to those whose vote wasn’t ideologically and dogmatically founded.

Areas where we were previously imperious as a nation, we now find ourselves under attack from nations that now view us as fair game and exploit our weaknesses, which are widespread and manifest.

So ironically, those who had deluded themselves that our power and greatness was founded internally, rather than as being part of something wider that made us stronger as a nation, have directly undermined those institutions that made them believe that their vote was securing our future, rather than condemning it.

Which they have.
 
More damning proof (as if any were needed) of the disaster that is brexit

BBC News - Bread to loo roll: How UK prices compare to five EU countries
www.bbc.co.uk

Bread to loo roll: How UK prices compare to five EU countries

UK shoppers are paying more for loo roll, butter and ketchup than some of our European neighbours, data suggests.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Yesterday, it was written that Rishi is so determined to control inflation that he is willing to let the economy slip into recession - we have the highest rising prices in the G7. He may not have noticed that to most of the electorate, we have been in recession for 13 years, and more so since 2016. If you wrote the achievements of this government on a piece of paper, the debits column would be just about the worst in history - absolutely dire - and Brexit, which they led, is chief among the damage.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Areas where we were previously imperious as a nation, we now find ourselves under attack from nations that now view us as fair game and exploit our weaknesses, which are widespread and manifest.
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Countries have always viewed the UK, or any other rival for that matter, as fair game with regards to trade, investment, domicile status, so on. Ireland’s corporate tax rate being an example of this for many years, and within the single market there are numerous ways in which national EU governments can alter the competitive landscape to favour domestic players.

Brexit hasn’t made it any easier for the UK to succeed but blaming all the ills and challenges on the issue is counterproductive.
 
Brewster's millions said:
Countries have always viewed the UK, or any other rival for that matter, as fair game with regards to trade, investment, domicile status, so on. Ireland’s corporate tax rate being an example of this for many years, and within the single market there are numerous ways in which national EU governments can alter the competitive landscape to favour domestic players.

Brexit hasn’t made it any easier for the UK to succeed but blaming all the ills and challenges on the issue is counterproductive.
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I don’t blame all our ills on that issue. Our electoral system predates the EEC by over a century and I strongly believe that is hampering us a nation us easily as much as Brexit.

So rather than being counterproductive, my approach is well rounded and considered.

The fundamental problem with many people who advocated for Brexit was the blind faith they placed in our public institutions.

Do you think they were right or misguided in holding that view?
 
Brewster's millions said:
Countries have always viewed the UK, or any other rival for that matter, as fair game with regards to trade, investment, domicile status, so on. Ireland’s corporate tax rate being an example of this for many years, and within the single market there are numerous ways in which national EU governments can alter the competitive landscape to favour domestic players.

Brexit hasn’t made it any easier for the UK to succeed but blaming all the ills and challenges on the issue is counterproductive.
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What, within the EU national governments can still have liberty to improve their competitive edge? I thought such stuff was subject to the all-powerful non-democratic EU institutions.
 
Vic said:
What, within the EU national governments can still have liberty to improve their competitive edge? I thought such stuff was subject to the all-powerful non-democratic EU institutions.
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Imagine eh? Another myth followed by the Brits. TBH thanks to 17m loons and a load of can't be arsed to votes we continue to reap what was sown
 
Vic said:
What, within the EU national governments can still have liberty to improve their competitive edge? I thought such stuff was subject to the all-powerful non-democratic EU institutions.
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I can't understand this statement?
Are you still slightly drunk from Saturday?
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
More damning proof (as if any were needed) of the disaster that is brexit

BBC News - Bread to loo roll: How UK prices compare to five EU countries
www.bbc.co.uk

Bread to loo roll: How UK prices compare to five EU countries

UK shoppers are paying more for loo roll, butter and ketchup than some of our European neighbours, data suggests.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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It isn't particularly damning though is it?
The article suggests that we are less expensive than some and dearer than other EU nations.
It is the BBC mind you.
 
You mean it's intended to indicate upward inflection?

Maybe you're Australian?

I bet you don't have Grade 1 GCE English Language?
 
There‘s not been a single person saying there’s been a Brexit benefit. Maybe time to close and leave this to die-a-death, just like Brexit.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
There‘s not been a single person saying there’s been a Brexit benefit. Maybe time to close and leave this to die-a-death, just like Brexit.
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Why? It's been millions of conversations, and social media on non-political sites (dog clubs, Mumsnet etc) that have got us to a big majority who realise it was a mistake. Maybe abandon the cause when the Tory press concede it was self-harm.
 
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