Don Karleone
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You got a few things wrong. It's spelt Gilmour :)Ok I agree to a certain extent, the underground music scene in London, the free concert in 1967 etc.
However as Syd became unfit for duty in 1968ish the band brought Gillmore in to play his guitar parts.
As he descended even further into his drugs, the band made a decision not to pick him up on their way to a gig (Southampton). The modern Pink Floyd was born at that moment.
They openly admit they couldn't write 3 minute singles like Syd but could write 30+ minute pieces of music.
If Syd had stayed functional Gillmore wouldn't have joined, and Floyd would never have written Darkside of the Moon, as Waters took over the writing of material after the void left by Syd.
Theres loads of stuff out there on this. I've tried to load a picture of Syd from 1974 but can't.
It really is a crying shame how he turned out, even the band didn't recognise him when he rocked up at Abbey Road studios in 1974 sometime during the Wish You Were Here recording sessions.
I think the second album A Saucerful of Secrets after Syd left was the most influential in Floyds development but thats the Gilmore/Wright influence.
The first time we hear Gillmore/Wright harmonies in the Celiestal Voices part of the track ASFOS.
But hey I like both Syds Pink Floyd and Waters Pink Floyd.
However I haven't supported Gillmore's or Water's solo career I'm not interested it ain't Pink Floyd.
Waters and Gilmour are like Lennon and McCartney- One has the hard edge and one the nicer sound with more actual musical talent. Together immense but separately nowhere near as good.Spot on that. Waters is the alchemist that Gilmour could never be.
Hmmm, pity he isn't a pacifist though.Putin has good music taste.
That's the word i was searching for to accompany his angst but i couldn't think of the right word. You nailed it Bill, good post pal.I think the 2 post waters albums are total dogshit, Gilmour had a bunch of writers help but couldn't write anything as deep, angst ridden and sardonic (or as lasting) as Waters could. I saw those 2 albums as a last big cash in before retiring the name.
The Final Cut was pretty shit too, Roger solo really. (although I do love The Gunners Dream).
In the end they needed each other to produce classic albums.
:-)You got a few things wrong. It's spelt Gilmour :)
The modern PF wasn't born at that moment, they spent the next year or two touring and playing Syd material.
Waters didn't take up the void after Syd, they all contributed for years until waters took over. Like on the movie soundtracks, Meddle, Ummagumma, Saucerful Of Secrets, Atom Heart Mother.
Yeah but for balance you need to give Waters solo stuff a fair listen before dismissing him palWaters and Gilmour are like Lennon and McCartney- One has the hard edge and one the nicer sound with more actual musical talent. Together immense but separately nowhere near as good.
I do though own all the Gilmour solo stuff and almost none of the Waters which shows where my loyalties lie!
I've listened to Waters and Gilmores solo stuff and it doesn't do it for me.Yeah but for balance you need to give Waters solo stuff a fair listen before dismissing him pal
Oh I've listened to it plenty- I just don't get inspired enough to want to spend any money on itYeah but for balance you need to give Waters solo stuff a fair listen before dismissing him pal