How many points will be needed to win the league? (74 GD)

How many points will be needed to win the league?

  • 81 - 85

    Votes: 671 67.0%
  • 76 - 80

    Votes: 280 28.0%
  • 70 - 75

    Votes: 50 5.0%

  • Total voters
    1,001
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i was thinking while <1% to win the title is correct for them, displaying it that way looked very generous.

I would round down 0.0000000001 to 0% rather than give them the same Chelsea and Leicester :)
They'll give them 0% when it's a mathematical impossibility, we spent the second half of 17/18 on 98 and 99%.
 
I personally think we'll be the only team to finish with 80+ points.

That means:
United dropping 11 more points from a possible 45. (P15, W11, D1, L3 - I don't even think they'll do this well)
Leicester dropping 9 more points from a possible 45.
Everton dropping 9 points from a possible 51.
Villa dropping 7 points from a possible 51.
Liverpool dropping 6 points from a possible 45.
Chelsea and West Ham dropping 5 points from a possible 45.
Spurs dropping 5 points from a possible 48.
Leeds dropping 1 point from a possible 48.
This is the only way to look at it. 10 more wins out of 16 chances for us plus a couple of draws makes it virtually impossible for any team to catch up. At the current rate maybe even 9 more wins would do it
 
And yet 95% now when we could be caught in 2 games?

I wonder if Robbie Savage can do a spreadsheet?
Could be caught in 2 and back in front in 3. All the 95% means is that if you play the season out from here 20 times they reckon we'd win 19 of them.
 
Maximum points totals:

City 98
United 90
Leicester 88
Everton 88
Villa 86
Liverpool 85
Chelsea 84
Tottenham 84
 
Could be caught in 2 and back in front in 3. All the 95% means is that if you play the season out from here 20 times they reckon we'd win 19 of them.
Most bookies are 1/16 which which is 94% and they are stingy will about an 11% profit margin, which would suggest around 84%

The best price is 1/12 so 92% probably taking less of a margin but they will believe the odds are in the 80s. The models make assumptions normally, and we have seen big leads turned around many times in the previous 10 years, the least obvious was Chelsea romping the league in 2017 after being 8 points behind City they finished 15 points ahead.
 
Most bookies are 1/16 which which is 94% and they are stingy will about an 11% profit margin, which would suggest around 84%

The best price is 1/12 so 92% probably taking less of a margin but they will believe the odds are in the 80s. The models make assumptions normally, and we have seen big leads turned around many times in the previous 10 years, the least obvious was Chelsea romping the league in 2017 after being 8 points behind City they finished 15 points ahead.
Chelsea were 8 points behind in October.
 
Chelsea were 8 points behind in October.
23 point over around 3/4 a season or 5 points + 1 game over 40% a season this year.

8 points in last 5 games to catch united 2012, Liverpool 10 ahead at one point in Jan in 2019, and the season started 12/19 September this year month later.

I want a 10 point lead with 10 to play before I get near 95% certain, and then we have the most crowded run-in.
 
I think if we beat Spuds n Tarquins I will be relaxed and maybe think it’s over, if we get 2 draws my arse will be twitching again.
 
What a shame we can't see any of the games live.
It's very upsetting watching the games with nobody there.
 
The good thing is is we can win the league with a few games to spare and fully utilise the squad for the remaining league matches. With important CL games and FA Cup game/s still to play with a fully fit KDB and Aguero and a rested squad it’s hopefully happy days ahead.
Looking at the table this morning, I think you're right.

United have 15 games left and are on 45pts. There will not be some ridiculous upturn in form from any other side over more than 10 games. Our run has been unbelievable, I don't see another side suddenly winning 15 in a row. They might win 10/11 out of the 15 and draw the remaining.

If you stick 37pts (11wins + 4 draws) on United's total that's 82pts. That would be some effort from them to get to that total as well. Especially with Europa league football to look forwards to. It's not happening. They'll lose a few and draw a few more too. 80pts will win it this season.
I hope you're right . But lets say our rival along with the odd helping hand gets them 13 wins, 2 draws. Unlikely but let's assume it. That gives them 41 pts. Total 86 pts. We must win at least 12 and draw 1,lose 3 . Total 87. Very doable in current form as we surpass that .Or win 11 , draw 3, lose 1.. (dicey) 86 pts total. Or win 12 ,draw 2 ,lose 2. Total 88. At the moment 91 points is the magic number . Win 13 ,draw 2.lose 1.
Pep won't leave anything to chance . He will want to win every single game.

...One game at a time.
 
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Site still saying 74 will do it with us finishing well clear with 88.

They’re the most accurate I’ve come across over the years and interestingly the prediction was quite similar when we were bottom half. They use underlying performance to strip away as much luck as they can.

The highest I’ve seen from them this season which would win the league (one point more than second) was 80 about a month ago.

It’s quite good to refer to every now and again because a team can be playing really well but be way down the table and vice versa. As an example when we were bottom half I nipped on the site and it was basically saying all good be patient.

As Francis Lee once said the trouble with football clubs is their results come out every week.

Don’t trust a couple of bad results or a couple of good results. The table lies most of the time and the best team doesn’t always win. In the end performance is the important thing as luck comes and goes.

People generally just remember the last result so we could play great and lose to a fluked goal and everyone is mad or we could be awful but still win. Pep talks more and more about this in his press conferences. This will never change because it’s human nature but there is another way of looking at things if you want.

Nothing is full proof and the predictions can’t account for things like injuries.... but did you know that if you predicted the league table at the start of a season and used how the last one finished with the promoted sides finishing bottom three...you would beat 95% of all predictions. This site is one of the 5% that beats this method. If you click on SPI this is what the league ranking would look like if luck was stripped out...look how good Brighton really are.

Give it a go...particularly after a league defeat. It may calm your nerves!
 
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Site still saying 74 will do it with us finishing well clear with 88.

They’re the most accurate I’ve come across over the years and interestingly the prediction was quite similar when we were bottom half. They use underlying performance to strip away as much luck as they can.

The highest I’ve seen from them this season which would win the league (one point more than second) was 80 about a month ago.

It’s quite good to refer to every now and again because a team can be playing really well but be way down the table and vice versa. As an example when we were bottom half I nipped on the site and it was basically saying all good be patient.

As Francis Lee once said the trouble with football clubs is their results come out every week.

Don’t trust a couple of bad results or a couple of good results. The table lies most of the time and the best team doesn’t always win. In the end performance is the important thing as luck comes and goes.

People generally just remember the last result so we could play great and lose to a fluked goal and everyone is mad or we could be awful but still win. Pep talks more and more about this in his press conferences. This will never change because it’s human nature but there is another way of looking at things if you want.

Nothing is full proof and the predictions can’t account for things like injuries.... but did you know that if you predicted the league table at the start of a season and used how the last one finished with the promoted sides finishing bottom three...you would beat 95% of all predictions. This site is one of the 5% that beats this method. If you click on SPI this is what the league ranking would look like if luck was stripped out...look how good Brighton really are.

Give it a go...particularly after a league defeat. It may calm your nerves!
If SPI is so accurate why does it have the rags in the top 10?
:)

Interestingly they put BMG on a par with West Ham and Villa.
 
I personally think we'll be the only team to finish with 80+ points.

That means to finish below 80 points:
City would have to drop 19 points from a possible 48.

United dropping 11 more points from a possible 45. (P15, W11, D1, L3 - I don't even think they'll do this well)
Leicester dropping 9 more points from a possible 42.
Everton dropping 9 points from a possible 51.
Villa dropping 7 points from a possible 51.
Liverpool dropping 3 points from a possible 42.
Chelsea and West Ham dropping 5 points from a possible 45.
Spurs dropping 5 points from a possible 48.
Leeds dropping 1 point from a possible 48.

Just editing the scenario to finish on 80+ points after Leicester-Liverpool.

Liverpool have to P14 W13 D1 to even finish on 80 points, so they're well and truly cooked.

I think only United or Leicester could even get near us now and neither of those have what it really takes.
 
Maximum points totals:

City 98
United 90
Leicester 88
Everton 88
Villa 86
Chelsea 84
Tottenham 84
West Ham 84
Liverpool 82
 
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