hughes on dunne

Dunne will come back with "He didn't speak to me in 6 months" which was the truth.
 
bizzbo said:
can anyone answer me, what is the point to all of this poorly informed bickering?
People airing their opinions, I thought that was the whole point of the forum.

On topic: I'd believe Dunne before the Cook spin machine everyday of the week.
 
BackgroundBlue said:
I dont have a problem with Hughes careful professional diplomacy - Its wise under the circumstances. I think the problem has been created by cook's crude and disrespectful handling of Dunne.

I think you're right, BackgroundBlue. As a pro-footballer I imagine Dunney knows how transfers work and the manager seems to have operated perfectly normally here (even JMA seems to admit that with his comment that the majority of managers would do the same..;0) - I'd change that to all managers actually).

Cook's comments, as reported, show no class, imo.
 
sweep said:
bizzbo said:
can anyone answer me, what is the point to all of this poorly informed bickering?
People airing their opinions, I thought that was the whole point of the forum.

On topic: I'd believe Dunne before the Cook spin machine everyday of the week.

Well, fair enough I guess, but this is a bit of a travesty. The machinations of last year are probably best forgotten. Theories of who was briefing against whom are just that. Whilst I subscribe to a few, I'm not daft enough to think that I was ever in full possession of the facts. It was always possible that the infighting was as much a product of those with vested interests in maintaining the status quo, as it was of those seeking to impress their methods and authority upon the club. As such, it seems like a shame that people are rigidly sticking to particular interpretations of last year's events. Last year's arguments will never be resolved, the case will never be proven one way or the other, all the evidence was tainted, shaped by one agenda or another.

More than that, it's a shame that we are continuing an argument that is now irrelevant, continuing to nurse the wounds and maintain the divisions that hurt us all last year. The real test of Hughes' reign is that we do not have a repeat this year. All that matters is that those involved with the club conduct themselves properly from here on.
 
I've never read so much eloquent garbage in three pages of a bluemoon thread, than I have on the previous three pages.

Richard Dunne should have kept his mouth firmly shut. Opening his mouth and slagging off any part of MCFC shows a level of bitterness and ignorance I would never had expected from the man.

He was shit last season. And if I had been in Mark Hughes' shoes, my quotes would've been closer to - "we replaced Dunne because he wasn't good enough to play in a side who want to challenge for the top prizes. Maybe he is a little angry at himself for not rising to the challenge last season, and is taking it out on Garry Cook and the club. He should maybe have respected the fact that City were the club who had stood by him when his drinking problem was threatening to drown his career, and not lashed out in such a bitter and personal attack. Especially when, in the end, it was him who signed a contract at Villa. Not Garry Cook, or myself..."
 
snip said:
when it suits them players are always telling us "its a business"
Well in any business you have to improve to get ahead and this is what City have done.
Loyalty blah blah went out of the window when the crazy wages came in.
If in the summer spuds had offered to double Dunnes money and increase the length of his contract he would have gone and quite rightly so.
But to bleat about your employer letting you go after looking after you and paying you so well for a long period of time is ridiculous . Its life in football,real life is much tougher,so get used to it.

And THIS is what's wrong with the mentality of the fans.

Fine, football pays in monopoly money. So what? If you don't like it spend no more on the game as a principle. Don't moan about someone earning x amount. That's just the way the cookie crumbles, after all YOU could have earned the same if you worked hard enough. As rappers say, "don't hate the player, hate the game" and it's true.

No matter what you may think of Dunne and his earnings, it bears no relevance to the loyalty he showed this club. Many of you think he's 'lucky' to have earned what he's earned. No he isn't, he's as good as his talent took him. He earned what he earned because City paid him that. Football can be perverse, but it's all relative. Do you think Jonathan Woss is worth his wonga in tv? Or Barbara Windsor, hers? Or Tom Cruise, his? Does it stop you or anybody else watching them? No. It's your choice.

Get over it or watch something else.
 
Bigga said:
snip said:
when it suits them players are always telling us "its a business"
Well in any business you have to improve to get ahead and this is what City have done.
Loyalty blah blah went out of the window when the crazy wages came in.
If in the summer spuds had offered to double Dunnes money and increase the length of his contract he would have gone and quite rightly so.
But to bleat about your employer letting you go after looking after you and paying you so well for a long period of time is ridiculous . Its life in football,real life is much tougher,so get used to it.

And THIS is what's wrong with the mentality of the fans.

Fine, football pays in monopoly money. So what? If you don't like it spend no more on the game as a principle. Don't moan about someone earning x amount. That's just the way the cookie crumbles, after all YOU could have earned the same if you worked hard enough. As rappers say, "don't hate the player, hate the game" and it's true.

No matter what you may think of Dunne and his earnings, it bears no relevance to the loyalty he showed this club. Many of you think he's 'lucky' to have earned what he's earned. No he isn't, he's as good as his talent took him. He earned what he earned because City paid him that. Football can be perverse, but it's all relative. Do you think Jonathan Woss is worth his wonga in tv? Or Barbara Windsor, hers? Or Tom Cruise, his? Does it stop you or anybody else watching them? No. It's your choice.

Get over it or watch something else.


can we all stop talking bollox about loyalty, he received a pay packet every week from city that is why he stayed for many years, i dont begrudge him earning a good living but he has hardly been thrown on the scrapheap, players leave clubs it happens and unless both parties want it then someone will be unhappy. he is a grown man ffs

maybe someone can correct me but i dont remember to many clubs bigger than city coming in for him and testing this supposed brilliant loyalty?

also if loves the clubs and fans so much why doesnt just keep his gob shut for our sakes.

what is the world coming to when people are feeling sorry for a rich bloke who earns a good living moving to another club to earn good money
 
hilts said:
can we all stop talking bollox about loyalty, he received a pay packet every week from city that is why he stayed for many years, i dont begrudge him earning a good living but he has hardly been thrown on the scrapheap, players leave clubs it happens and unless both parties want it then someone will be unhappy. he is a grown man ffs

maybe someone can correct me but i dont remember to many clubs bigger than city coming in for him and testing this supposed brilliant loyalty?

also if loves the clubs and fans so much why doesnt just keep his gob shut for our sakes.

what is the world coming to when people are feeling sorry for a rich bloke who earns a good living moving to another club to earn good money

You also miss the point. It's not the fact the the club paid him handsomely. That's not Dunne's fault, that's football's. You may earn sh*t loads compared to someone else. that's just the job you're in.

He built his career here. His built an affinity with the fans who voted HIM player of the year, year after year. I daresay I think he have given his bit to charity if he had got his testimonial a la Big Quinny, but now we'll never know.

I think he became spiteful, as spurned people do, in this 'loyalty' argument.
 

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