HUGHES TO GET NEW CONTRACT!!!

mr t said:
Prophet of Doom said:
18 pages on a completely made up story.

FFS when will some people on here learn
Oh you're such a killjoy Prophet of Doom..................anyway it might be true.


Regardless if its true or not, I think he deserves a break, he has us in 8th place and lets judge him at the end of the season.

This story might create momentum into putting this issue on the discussion table. You would be surprised how much the club has ear aimed at the fans.
 
The stability bollocks is a big myth. Pearce and Sven apart, our recent managers have had a number of years in the job. They took us as far as they could and were rightly sacked, you can include Pearce in that too. Sven's treatment remains a disgrace but what would you expect from a man who knows zilch about football?

Anyway, back to the myth. There's a reason why United, Arsenal, Everton etc do so well, not because they didn't sack their managers after a season but because they've got excellent managers. Very rarely do premiership managers get sacked and then go on to better jobs, they always fall down the league, move abroad or go down to the championship and there's a reason for that; they're not good enough. There is no point having stability for the sake of stability. You have to see the signs of improvement and apart from the odd home there's not that much improvement considering the squad we have.

All that is irrelevent in this thread though, this is about a new contract possibly being given to a manager who doesn't deserve one, whether you're in the Hughes in camp or not, he does not deserve a new contract.
 
jay_mcfc said:
There is no point having stability for the sake of stability. You have to see the signs of improvement and apart from the odd home there's not that much improvement considering the squad we have.

Patience
 
jay_mcfc said:
The stability bollocks is a big myth. Pearce and Sven apart, our recent managers have had a number of years in the job. They took us as far as they could and were rightly sacked, you can include Pearce in that too. Sven's treatment remains a disgrace but what would you expect from a man who knows zilch about football?

Anyway, back to the myth. There's a reason why United, Arsenal, Everton etc do so well, not because they didn't sack their managers after a season but because they've got excellent managers. Very rarely do premiership managers get sacked and then go on to better jobs, they always fall down the league, move abroad or go down to the championship and there's a reason for that; they're not good enough. There is no point having stability for the sake of stability. You have to see the signs of improvement and apart from the odd home there's not that much improvement considering the squad we have.

All that is irrelevent in this thread though, this is about a new contract possibly being given to a manager who doesn't deserve one, whether you're in the Hughes in camp or not, he does not deserve a new contract.

well said son, Im with this 100%, our squad shud be getting more than 1 away win all season, how many times have we had bak 2 bak wins this season???? dont worry tho Mark we will reward you with a better contract regardless as our fans will still pay to see us play shite away from home
 
The Fat el Hombre said:

Balls to that ;)

I've said all along Hughes is a decent manager who will do a decent job...and he kinda is. He will not, ever, win us a league though and that has to be our aim and that is the reason I want him gone.
 
Manchester City is in a unique position in world football. It has opportunities available to it, because of the cash, that are not open to anyone else.

Therefore, it is ridiculous that people preach 'patience' in the hope that we develop a mediocre manager and in a couple of years might have a team that is capable of doing what Villa are doing this season after having circa £300m spent on it.

Teams like Wigan and Bolton are in a position where they have to develop a manager with talent and that is the best option for them. Taking a risk that the average manager they choose is going to turn out eventually to be a very good one. That is there only option. They cannot attract anyone better.

(PS: in those stakes their selection process must be better than ours. Bruce took over a team going down, in the relegation zone and with minimal spending (at least compared to Hughes) has immediately taken them to form over a year and a bit that is circa top six in it's standard - that's what good managers do when they take over - improve teams - not spend £120m to stand still).

Anyway, we have the opportunity to attract the very best to this club, and that includes management. If Kaka or another to class midfielder, were to agree to come in the summer would we be saying "Actually, although Kaka is great, Fernandes has shown one of two glimpses of potential in the last couple of years, along with a lot of poor performances. Fuck Kaka, we'll stick with patience and develop Gelson."

No we wouldn't.

The same reasoning was given for loads when signing Given to replace Hart. So called progress.

Well, along the same lines, there are probably at least a dozen managers who are far better placed and skilled to take this club forward immediately than Hughes is. Managers who might have at least equaled the impact that a Bruce or a Megson or an Alladyce had on their respective teams in their first season. Yet we should have 'patience' and hope that next season he might be able to do what Gary Megson and Steve Bruce have already managed and get a decent set of results together relative to the money he has spent and players available to him.

I bet he can't believe his luck. The richest club in the world and there's a large amount of people who want to shun the opportunities that offers and use it as his own personal development project - instead of making decisions to make it the very best it can be.

Anyway, as we all know, give a manager 4 seasons and he automatically turns into the next Arsene Wenger. Jeez, give a manager 4 seasons with £120m a season and he'll probably turn into the bastard son of Wenger, Fergie and The Special One.
 
well said Jay and JMA, sick to death of hearing this stability bollocks based on a manager who has won fuck all (as a manager) - as the "richest club in the world" we have bugger all reason to try and develop a manager who has "potential", i have nothing against Hughes and am sure we would see measured progression but even Big Fat Sam could do that with the money we have to spend.....

we have the resources available to speed the process up, get a great manager who has won at the highest level and THEN have some stability.
 
The Fat el Hombre said:
jay_mcfc said:
There is no point having stability for the sake of stability. You have to see the signs of improvement and apart from the odd home there's not that much improvement considering the squad we have.

Patience

You could say that patience should be shown before offering new contracts to someone that is yet to show he deserves one.
 
JohnMaddocksAxe said:
Manchester City is in a unique position in world football. It has opportunities available to it, because of the cash, that are not open to anyone else.

Therefore, it is ridiculous that people preach 'patience' in the hope that we develop a mediocre manager and in a couple of years might have a team that is capable of doing what Villa are doing this season after having circa £300m spent on it.

Teams like Wigan and Bolton are in a position where they have to develop a manager with talent and that is the best option for them. Taking a risk that the average manager they choose is going to turn out eventually to be a very good one. That is there only option. They cannot attract anyone better.

(PS: in those stakes their selection process must be better than ours. Bruce took over a team going down, in the relegation zone and with minimal spending (at least compared to Hughes) has immediately taken them to form over a year and a bit that is circa top six in it's standard - that's what good managers do when they take over - improve teams - not spend £120m to stand still).

Anyway, we have the opportunity to attract the very best to this club, and that includes management. If Kaka or another to class midfielder, were to agree to come in the summer would we be saying "Actually, although Kaka is great, Fernandes has shown one of two glimpses of potential in the last couple of years, along with a lot of poor performances. Fuck Kaka, we'll stick with patience and develop Gelson."

No we wouldn't.

The same reasoning was given for loads when signing Given to replace Hart. So called progress.

Well, along the same lines, there are probably at least a dozen managers who are far better placed and skilled to take this club forward immediately than Hughes is. Managers who might have at least equaled the impact that a Bruce or a Megson or an Alladyce had on their respective teams in their first season. Yet we should have 'patience' and hope that next season he might be able to do what Gary Megson and Steve Bruce have already managed and get a decent set of results together relative to the money he has spent and players available to him.

I bet he can't believe his luck. The richest club in the world and there's a large amount of people who want to shun the opportunities that offers and use it as his own personal development project - instead of making decisions to make it the very best it can be.

Anyway, as we all know, give a manager 4 seasons and he automatically turns into the next Arsene Wenger. Jeez, give a manager 4 seasons with £120m a season and he'll probably turn into the bastard son of Wenger, Fergie and The Special One.

What a load of shit
 
moomba said:
The Fat el Hombre said:
jay_mcfc said:
There is no point having stability for the sake of stability. You have to see the signs of improvement and apart from the odd home there's not that much improvement considering the squad we have.

Patience

You could say that patience should be shown before offering new contracts to someone that is yet to show he deserves one.

I agree. As I said, I don't think he should be getting a new contract
 

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