Re the Hyde Road Hotel Gary, any idea why it's so big at the back? The old maps seem to show a huge yard that extends to the back...
Hyde Road Stadium
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Gary James
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No, but I was asked to proof read some questions for Mastermind about 18 years ago on City. Sadly, they got the answers from one of those cheap ‘facts’ style books written by non-City fans to cash in and found another similar book which repeated the same shite. I explained they were full of errors but they replied ‘we only need two sources’. So it was somewhat frustrating.
Coincidentally, I was contacted by someone who was going on Mastermind that year asking which of my books to use for some research and i ended up having to recommend these two inaccurate books!
Gary James
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Yes to all of that. The dog track was built instead of a new ground for City but many people, including myself for years, assumed they were moving to the ‘speedway’ stadium and hadn’t considered Mount Rd until I found that stuff in 2000s. It seems both sites were actually considered.
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His death is typically linked to WW1 impact and we included him in the special tribute a few years back by Sky. I took them to his grave at Denton cemetery.
...Apologies, this was from a match played earlier in the season at Ayresome Park
Gary James
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Yes. It was built on a site that had previously been occupied by a house called White Cottage (or similar - all this is from my head not my notes). That site simply stretched back that far. When City we’re based at the pub there were temporary/low quality huts/buildings stretching up there selling stuff as part of the approach to the Popular Side terracing. It was known as The Croft in articles and was usually muddy.
There's some great old photographs of the team when at Hyde Road... we need to bring back goalies wearing flat caps!
Lovebitesandeveryfing
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Here‘s a list:
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I’m delighted to say I’ll be performing the next free online History Talk on Wednesday 29 March at 6pm until 7pm. This talk will be on Manchester City FC between 2005 to 2009. It’…
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Earlier today (Saturday March 5 at 3pm UK time) I did an online talk/presentation on the history of Manchester City's support and match day at Maine Road. It was a celebration of fans and a reminder of Maine Road. I've now posted below a free to view video of the talk for anyone to watch...…
I hope this all helps. Cheers
Mate, the work you've done on City's heritage is simply irreplaceable.
Forget Bert Trautmann, Billy Meredith, et al. Build a statue to Gary James ;-)
Many years ago, I supervised a piece of research on City by a young French student from Toulouse. It was a serious piece of work, he went over several times and carried out interviews, looked into archives and suchlike. I'm afraid I've forgotten his name, and lost touch with him after that. I do remember that the main thrust of his argument was that City's distant origins at St. Mark's lay in the whole “muscular Christianity” ethos of Victorian England. It was convincingly argued .
He told me he'd met you, of course. He also told me an interesting thing about talking to Sylvain Distin. Distin was looking musingly around the stands at Eastlands (as it then was), and then said, quite casually, “You know, this is a big club here. Its position doesn't reflect what it rightfully is.” I've embellished it, but it was definitely along those lines.
Sylvain, I raise a glass to you.
Gary James
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For anyone interested there are some action shots and other images, including one of the King sat in the ‘royal box’, of Hyde Rd on my website. Here’s a link to everything referencing ‘Hyde’ (so you’ll get stuff about Hyde Utd too!):
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Gary James
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The ones with the wall/building behind are taken behind the Main Stand looking towards Galloway’s. The ones with the stripes (blue/white) are in front of the Main Stand.