I bet Nu Liebour do jack s**t about this...

ElanJo said:
levets said:
sorry.... but that's total bollocks... you need to experience life a bit more then you might understand right & wrong!

By your argument Racism would not be a crime

I'll ignore your first sentence because it's just pure laziness on your part.

Racism shouldn't be a crime, no. Like shagging your best mates girlfriend it should be looked down upon, the person/s involved shunned (called "twats" perhaps?) etc.
How racism is unjustified(morally, biologically etc.) should be explained. The list goes on. It should be a moral crime not a legal crime.

Tell you what ElanJo, we will agree to disagree as long as you refrain from calling me a Twat, as the next time you do it, i will report you as this board has Cof C that clearly states personal abuse is a no-no because this site has rules that means you can not say whatever you like, just like society does, meaning that groups like Islam4uk and individuals like Mr Choudary get banned.

Levets is 100% correct, instead of trying to live your life by some political correct idealism you have either read in a book or have been tought at your local college, try learning the difference between what is right and what is wrong in life!
 
blueinsa said:
Pigeonho said:
Not sure how this beauty of a thread passed me by. Anyways, to me, if anyone wants to live in our country and scrounge our benefits BUT stand on street corners preaching hate against the West, (hookhand), or march in the town where our fallen are re-patriated, (SP), fuck the lot of them out when they are caught in the act. Whether they are born here, here illegally or legally, arrest them, charge them with whatever charge is appropriate, and deport them. Where you deport them is another matter, but why the fuck should we allow people to preach their hatred of us, on our streets?!! I work in, lets just call it the public sector, and we once had dealings with someone who openly had on his application to enter the country 'member of Al Quaida'. Bin Ladens name was quoted too. Was he deported straight away? Was he fuck, he was given benefits via his legally resident wife, and allowed 6 months leave to remain here in a 5 bedroom house in Cheetham Hill. Absolutely disfuckingraceful. Kick them out if they are like that. Those who live here, contribute and go about their beliefs quietly, (the none-threatening belifs I mean), absolutely no problem with them, and I have many friends of such decency. Those who preach hatred though, kick the ***** out.

Amen to that blue brother!

Fuck me, me and pigeonho agree on something ;-)

Had to happen one day mate!
 
Pigeonho said:
Not sure how this beauty of a thread passed me by. Anyways, to me, if anyone wants to live in our country and scrounge our benefits BUT stand on street corners preaching hate against the West, (hookhand), or march in the town where our fallen are re-patriated, (SP), fuck the lot of them out when they are caught in the act. Whether they are born here, here illegally or legally, arrest them, charge them with whatever charge is appropriate, and deport them. Where you deport them is another matter, but why the fuck should we allow people to preach their hatred of us, on our streets?!! I work in, lets just call it the public sector, and we once had dealings with someone who openly had on his application to enter the country 'member of Al Quaida'. Bin Ladens name was quoted too. Was he deported straight away? Was he fuck, he was given benefits via his legally resident wife, and allowed 6 months leave to remain here in a 5 bedroom house in Cheetham Hill. Absolutely disfuckingraceful. Kick them out if they are like that. Those who live here, contribute and go about their beliefs quietly, (the none-threatening belifs I mean), absolutely no problem with them, and I have many friends of such decency. Those who preach hatred though, kick the ***** out.

so where should this bloke be deported too?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8462205.stm
 
stonerblue said:
Pigeonho said:
Not sure how this beauty of a thread passed me by. Anyways, to me, if anyone wants to live in our country and scrounge our benefits BUT stand on street corners preaching hate against the West, (hookhand), or march in the town where our fallen are re-patriated, (SP), fuck the lot of them out when they are caught in the act. Whether they are born here, here illegally or legally, arrest them, charge them with whatever charge is appropriate, and deport them. Where you deport them is another matter, but why the fuck should we allow people to preach their hatred of us, on our streets?!! I work in, lets just call it the public sector, and we once had dealings with someone who openly had on his application to enter the country 'member of Al Quaida'. Bin Ladens name was quoted too. Was he deported straight away? Was he fuck, he was given benefits via his legally resident wife, and allowed 6 months leave to remain here in a 5 bedroom house in Cheetham Hill. Absolutely disfuckingraceful. Kick them out if they are like that. Those who live here, contribute and go about their beliefs quietly, (the none-threatening belifs I mean), absolutely no problem with them, and I have many friends of such decency. Those who preach hatred though, kick the ***** out.

so where should this bloke be deported too?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8462205.stm

If you read it, it says where he has been 'deported' too, on the fifth line
 
No, he was sent to jail. Not really deported is it ?

When he gets out in 4 years will you be worrying about him or his crazy right-wing group blowing you up or dis-respecting the flag?
 
stonerblue said:
No, he was sent to jail. Not really deported is it ?

When he gets out in 4 years will you be worrying about him or his crazy right-wing group blowing you up or dis-respecting the flag?

Yes I know, thats why I put 'deported' in inverted commas. To be honest i'm struggling to find a link between that article and what I said about what should happen to those who preach hate against our country. Doesn't mention once that that guy stands on a street corner preaching hate, or planning to march round Wootten Basset mouthing off his extreme views, does it? Infact the judge went as far to say he was a lone operator in whatever charade it is he's doing. He sounds like a nutter, a nutter who is best off inside and far away from anyone who he can cause any kind of damage too with his weaponry. He is not an extremeist against our country though, and that was what my post initially was for, to explain what I believe should happen to people who mouth off about wanting to blow us up whilst residing in our country. He is not doing that, he is just a sad man who appears to be disturbed.
 
Mental_blue said:
kevinmcfc said:
I would not shed a tear if every one of them was blown to kingdom come. Death is too good for these ragheads.

Oh dear, oh dear.

And you opinion is ???? exactly your sort never have one. Oh dear oh fucking dear.
 
I find "idealism" to be the product of youth and naievety (still can't spell that word). It's great in a text book and lovely to spout but let's face it....if someone shat on their (the idealist's) doorstep then I doubt they would invite them in for a cup of tea and a chat.

They could even say they belonged to a group that were campaigning for the freedom to shit where they want but I still think they would get a battering.

Freedom of speech/shit group.
 
blueinsa said:
ElanJo said:
I'll ignore your first sentence because it's just pure laziness on your part.

Racism shouldn't be a crime, no. Like shagging your best mates girlfriend it should be looked down upon, the person/s involved shunned (called "twats" perhaps?) etc.
How racism is unjustified(morally, biologically etc.) should be explained. The list goes on. It should be a moral crime not a legal crime.

Tell you what ElanJo, we will agree to disagree as long as you refrain from calling me a Twat, as the next time you do it, i will report you as this board has Cof C that clearly states personal abuse is a no-no because this site has rules that means you can not say whatever you like, just like society does, meaning that groups like Islam4uk and individuals like Mr Choudary get banned.

Levets is 100% correct, instead of trying to live your life by some political correct idealism you have either read in a book or have been tought at your local college, try learning the difference between what is right and what is wrong in life!

try learning the difference between what is right and what is wrong in life!
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He can't.... he hasn't lived long enough to recognise it yet... He's a youngster who's been brought up in modern day britain.... But what you would class as a 'mature student'? Am I right? Hence his off the wall views..... Racism should be a crime FFS...
 
ElanJo said:
levets said:
sorry.... but that's total bollocks... you need to experience life a bit more then you might understand right & wrong!

By your argument Racism would not be a crime

I'll ignore your first sentence because it's just pure laziness on your part.

Racism shouldn't be a crime, no. Like shagging your best mates girlfriend it should be looked down upon, the person/s involved shunned (called "twats" perhaps?) etc.
How racism is unjustified(morally, biologically etc.) should be explained. The list goes on. It should be a moral crime not a legal crime.

sorry Elanjo.... My first sentence is 100% spot on.... you need to experience life a bit more then you might understand right & wrong!/b]
 

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