Ian Brown

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stonerblue said:
The 'rock' guitar was made relevant again with the release of Definitely Maybe.
'Driving South' is a monster tune
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Oasis stole the Roses thunder. If Second Coming had made it out before Definitely Maybe and if they had released Ten Storey Love Song first, the media would have lauded the album.

In 95/96, the Roses had become a bit of a laughing stock with the media. The hype around the Roses grew in their absence, aided a lot by Liams adoration of the band. When they disbanded after Reading, they were not the huge, football stadium selling band that returned 20 years later. The first album was not even that lauded. The consensus was that Pills n Thrills and Screamadelica were probably the best 2 Baggy albums.

The first album is a stone cold classic which still resonates today. You get 20 year kids belting out those songs at festivals, even now. The Secong Coming is a great album that does not get the credit it deserves.

I don't think the Roses belong on podium when it comes to the pantheon of great Mancunian bands. But they released two very good rock/pop albums (one being better than very good).

Ian Brown is a cock though.
 
Saw Johnny Marr last night.
One of the worlds most talelnted guitarists, a great live band with him and a superb live orchestra. He wasn't even the lead singer of any band he's been in, yet excellent voice and not a note out of place.
Compare and contrast with Karaoke Brown. Let's face it - it's about the nostalgia and attitude with him. Incredible back catalogue granted.
 
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GaudinoMotors said:
Saw Johnny Marr last night.
One of the worlds most talelnted guitarists, a great live band with him a superb live orchestra. He wasn't even the lead singer of any band he's been in, yet excellent voice and not a note out of place.
Compare and contrast with Karaoke Brown. Let's face it - it's about the nostalgia and attitude with him.
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You would be pushing it a bit by saying Johnny Marr is the best guitarist from Wythenshawe.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
Oasis stole the Roses thunder. If Second Coming had made it out before Definitely Maybe and if they had released Ten Storey Love Song first, the media would have lauded the album.

In 95/96, the Roses had become a bit of a laughing stock with the media. The hype around the Roses grew in their absence, aided a lot by Liams adoration of the band. When they disbanded after Reading, they were not the huge, football stadium selling band that returned 20 years later. The first album was not even that lauded. The consensus was that Pills n Thrills and Screamadelica were probably the best 2 Baggy albums.

The first album is a stone cold classic which still resonates today. You get 20 year kids belting out those songs at festivals, even now. The Secong Coming is a great album that does not get the credit it deserves.

I don't think the Roses belong on podium when it comes to the pantheon of great Mancunian bands. But they released two very good rock/pop albums (one being better than very good).

Ian Brown is a cock though.
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Ten story love song is a classic tune that’s never got the recognition it deserves, but that’s only my opinion:)
 
Marklr said:
I like How Do You Sleep, Ten Story Love Song and....I can't remember the other one I like from that album. The over the top guitar on the album wasn't welcome mid-90s at the height of rave and all that. Even Brit-Pop avoided too much guitar.
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Ten Storey Love Song is an absolute peach of a number.
 
I loved the Roses, saw them first in Widnes then Warrington just before first album came out. Absolutely electric gigs. Then at the International- think it was same day we’d fucked up against Bournemouth. Again, electric gig.
Blackpool Ballroom - fantastic.
Spike Island - great
Ally Pally - shite.

Never bothered again as the “magic” had died by then.

Seen Brown solo live many times and some were absolutely brilliant, others total shite. He’s written several superb solo albums and I’ve spoken to him a few times and he was genuinely one the most self-deprecating, funny and quick-witted people you could meet. Mani lives near me and is equally funny, diffident, if not more so.
Brown’s latest gigs are pitiful but I’ll always have fondest memories of those gigs in Widnes and Warrington- magic
 
johnnytapia said:
I loved the Roses, saw them first in Widnes then Warrington just before first album came out. Absolutely electric gigs. Then at the International- think it was same day we’d fucked up against Bournemouth. Again, electric gig.
Blackpool Ballroom - fantastic.
Spike Island - great
Ally Pally - shite.

Never bothered again as the “magic” had died by then.

Seen Brown solo live many times and some were absolutely brilliant, others total shite. He’s written several superb solo albums and I’ve spoken to him a few times and he was genuinely one the most self-deprecating, funny and quick-witted people you could meet. Mani lives near me and is equally funny, diffident, if not more so.
Brown’s latest gigs are pitiful but I’ll always have fondest memories of those gigs in Widnes and Warrington- magic
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Is Mani back in Heaton Moor? He lived in Sale for a bit.

I went to see Ian Brown at the Empress Ballroom in 2000 and he was immense, sounded great, packed out. Then you got him doing this Karaoke thing of his hits, it's a tragic fall from grace or maybe he can't afford to pay for a band.

Loved this fella since I was 15 but just can't entertain him nowadays.
 
manimanc said:
Is Mani back in Heaton Moor? He lived in Sale for a bit.

I went to see Ian Brown at the Empress Ballroom in 2000 and he was immense, sounded great, packed out. Then you got him doing this Karaoke thing of his hits, it's a tragic fall from grace or maybe he can't afford to pay for a band.

Loved this fella since I was 15 but just can't entertain him nowadays.
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I live in the HM area and have seen him about.
 
manimanc said:
Is Mani back in Heaton Moor? He lived in Sale for a bit.

I went to see Ian Brown at the Empress Ballroom in 2000 and he was immense, sounded great, packed out. Then you got him doing this Karaoke thing of his hits, it's a tragic fall from grace or maybe he can't afford to pay for a band.

Loved this fella since I was 15 but just can't entertain him nowadays.
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Ha ha that’s quite funny - I walked out of that Blackpool gig - they had to restart one of the songs (think it was So Many Soldiers) as Brown / the band got all their timings wrong and I thought “fuck this”. I was in a bad space personally at the time so that didn’t help.
Yep, Mani is in Heston Moor. Still laugh at the time he was on Radio 5 and they had to apologise after he’d rang in one day after United had beaten Liverpool and Lucas had had a ‘mare. Mani said “He’s the worst Brazilian since David Blunkett shaved his missus’ fanny.”
He’s a very funny bloke.
 
johnnytapia said:
Ha ha that’s quite funny - I walked out of that Blackpool gig - they had to restart one of the songs (think it was So Many Soldiers) as Brown / the band got all their timings wrong and I thought “fuck this”. I was in a bad space personally at the time so that didn’t help.
Yep, Mani is in Heston Moor. Still laugh at the time he was on Radio 5 and they had to apologise after he’d rang in one day after United had beaten Liverpool and Lucas had had a ‘mare. Mani said “He’s the worst Brazilian since David Blunkett shaved his missus’ fanny.”
He’s a very funny bloke.
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I always remember him singing Billie Jean and thinking I was hearing things, I'm sure he did a couple of 'Hee hees ' too!

I love Mani, I had a beer with him in 2003 at a Cooper temple clause gig at the academy 2, was so down to earth and chatty, we talked about music and football. It was about 2 weeks or so before Glasto as he shook everyone's hand with his left hand( I presumed he didn't want anyone to injure his right hand ). He also had that black leather Adidas jacket with the red sash that he always seemed to be in in 2003.

Was so gutted about Imelda, really sad news and I felt so much for Mani, just hope he gets through it and everyone rallies round him as he's a man of the people and a top fella.
 
Anyone know what Reni is up to?
He seemed to be the really enigmatic one.
Despite what anyone thinks about their music, they're one of the bands that drew eyes towards Manchester and helped kickstart it's resurgence.
 
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