Ibra

Outrun said:
Solihull Samba Boys said:
This. When people say this will be a problem I always (reluctantly) use the example of Cole, Yorke, Sheringham and Solskjaer. Tevez, Adebayor, Balotelli and Ibrahimovic looks sensational, especially given Tevez can play deeper and Super Mario can play out wide.

The difference is that they played 4-4-2, with two strikers. We often play only with one striker. Tevez might drift outside as supporting striker but then he's competing with the likes of Silva and Robinho.

Solskjaer was also ok with being on the bench, I doubt Ibra, Tevez and Adebayor are.

Pretty sure Bobby had 6 international strikers at Inter including Ibra, including the likes of fat-boy Adriano.
 
Outrun said:
Solihull Samba Boys said:
This. When people say this will be a problem I always (reluctantly) use the example of Cole, Yorke, Sheringham and Solskjaer. Tevez, Adebayor, Balotelli and Ibrahimovic looks sensational, especially given Tevez can play deeper and Super Mario can play out wide.

The difference is that they played 4-4-2, with two strikers. We often play only with one striker. Tevez might drift outside as supporting striker but then he's competing with the likes of Silva and Robinho.

Solskjaer was also ok with being on the bench, I doubt Ibra, Tevez and Adebayor are.

I think we'll play 2 up front this season in a diamond setup. All of Roberto's signings point towards this in my view, plus he played that formation against Valencia. In addition, hopefully we will have 68 games this year so we need class players in every position. We can't have 3 top strikers and then one average one to make up the numbers, and everyone knows what the situation is when they sign.
 
okstate99 said:
I doubt this deal happens. We want Barca to take Robinho, Barca wants cash.

Robinho is younger and makes around £50k less than Ibra, plus he'd fit the Barca style of play better. No one is ready to pay the cash Barcelona want for Ibra anyway, so the deal wouldn't be bad to them.
 
Outrun said:
okstate99 said:
I doubt this deal happens. We want Barca to take Robinho, Barca wants cash.

Robinho is younger and makes around £50k less than Ibra, plus he'd fit the Barca style of play better. No one is ready to pay the cash Barcelona want for Ibra anyway, so the deal wouldn't be bad to them.


Yea watch him become South American player of the year. :-)
 
john@staustell said:
Outrun said:
The difference is that they played 4-4-2, with two strikers. We often play only with one striker. Tevez might drift outside as supporting striker but then he's competing with the likes of Silva and Robinho.

Solskjaer was also ok with being on the bench, I doubt Ibra, Tevez and Adebayor are.

Pretty sure Bobby had 6 international strikers at Inter including Ibra, including the likes of fat-boy Adriano.

They had, if I remember it correctly:
Julio Cruz
Ibra
Crespo
Adriano
Suazo
Recoba

Playing 4-4-2, two strikers.

Recoba was on a shit expensive contract so no other club would take him. Basically he played with the reserves and was barely in the first team. Adriano obviously had his issues. Suazo was new for that season and was a stupid buy, he didn't get to play that much. Crespo was just shit and benched for that reason, he was horrible, and old. Worse than Benjani, kept missing goal, laughable. Julio Cruz acted as their Solskjaer, was coming a bit to an age too.

I am not saying your logic is wrong, but what I'm saying is:
Those 6 attackers consisted of alcoholics, 30+ year old players who were fine with playing a match here and there. Their bodies didn't take more anyway.

If we had Ibra, Adebayor, Tevez, Balotelli we would have four players young, in their prime, all expecting to play every week. We'd also have to get rid of Santa Cruz, Jo and Caicedo somehow (which I hope will happen anyway).<br /><br />-- 12 Aug 2010, 16:40 --<br /><br />
Solihull Samba Boys said:
Outrun said:
The difference is that they played 4-4-2, with two strikers. We often play only with one striker. Tevez might drift outside as supporting striker but then he's competing with the likes of Silva and Robinho.

Solskjaer was also ok with being on the bench, I doubt Ibra, Tevez and Adebayor are.

I think we'll play 2 up front this season in a diamond setup. All of Roberto's signings point towards this in my view, plus he played that formation against Valencia. In addition, hopefully we will have 68 games this year so we need class players in every position. We can't have 3 top strikers and then one average one to make up the numbers, and everyone knows what the situation is when they sign.

Starting line-up was:
Hart
Richards - Boateng - Kompany - Kolarov - Yaya - De Jong - Barry - Silva - Tevez - Adebayor

Who was playing right midfield?

They only played for 30 minutes but from what I gathered, we played the 4-3-1-2 of:
Hart
Richards - Boateng - Kompany - Kolarov
Yaya - De Jong - Barry
Silva
Adebayor - Tevez

Yaya, De Jong and Barry seemed to play on a line and covered the midfield. Tevez had a free role behind Adebayor, with Silva acting as a AM.

If we played the diamond we would need a right and left midfield.

I'd say the formation we played was very similar to the one Inter used to play. Cambiasso, Zanetti and Vieira as CM/DMs with Figo or Stankovic on top of them.

Actually I find this interesting, I'll start a new topic of this in the main forum, getting a bit OT here.
 
Taken from tomorrows sun.... talk about bull:

MANCHESTER City have offered Zlatan Ibrahimovic a four-year deal worth a staggering £96MILLION - or roughly £500,000 a week.
The mega-deal would make the Barcelona striker the highest-paid footballer in the world, earning £24m a year.
That dwarfs the salaries of top stars such as Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka.
City representatives made their mouth-watering offer direct to Ibrahimovic's manager Mino Raiola to show how much they want to capture the Swedish international.
The huge deal dwarfs the 11m euros a year the striker picks up at the Nou Camp.
Ibrahimovic is unsettled at Barca despite joining only last summer in a 50m euro deal that also took Samuel Eto'o from Barcelona to the San Siro.
The enigmatic forward fell out with Barca coach Pep Guardiola in February and the pair barely speak now.
Ibrahimovic is upset he has not been a regular starter and he has clashed with his coach over Barca's style of play.
So the chance to be involved in building a new club to rival Europe's best is an attractive proposition, especially with such a salary on offer.
The striker is familiar with City boss Roberto Mancini after the pair's time together at Inter Milan.
A source close to Ibrahimovic said: "City have shown how much they want Zlatan and although he is well paid at Barcelona this offer is in a different league.
"It has given him plenty to think about especially when he is not so happy with his football at Barca.
"The idea of being part of a move to create a new super club to challenge the very best in Europe is also attractive.
"City have to agree a deal with Barcelona before this can go any further - but there's a feeling that could all happen fairly quickly now."
Unsettled Brazilian star Robinho could move to Barcelona as a makeweight in the deal.
Ibrahimovic's arrival would raise more questions about the futures of strikers Carlos Tevez, Emmanuel Adebayor, Roque Santa Cruz and Craig Bellamy as City continue their spree.


Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3093647/Manchester-City-are-ready-to-make-Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-a-50000-a-week-deal.html#ixzz0wR8Xce1w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... z0wR8Xce1w</a>
 
okstate99 said:
I doubt this deal happens. We want Barca to take Robinho, Barca wants cash.

They could get €20m + Robbie from us probably.

As a nice bonus for us, it might mean they then make a final, higher bid for Fabregas.

Can't see any of this actually happening though.
 
Taylor said:
Taken from tomorrows sun.... talk about bull:

MANCHESTER City have offered Zlatan Ibrahimovic a four-year deal worth a staggering £96MILLION - or roughly £500,000 a week.
The mega-deal would make the Barcelona striker the highest-paid footballer in the world, earning £24m a year.
That dwarfs the salaries of top stars such as Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka.
City representatives made their mouth-watering offer direct to Ibrahimovic's manager Mino Raiola to show how much they want to capture the Swedish international.
The huge deal dwarfs the 11m euros a year the striker picks up at the Nou Camp.
Ibrahimovic is unsettled at Barca despite joining only last summer in a 50m euro deal that also took Samuel Eto'o from Barcelona to the San Siro.
The enigmatic forward fell out with Barca coach Pep Guardiola in February and the pair barely speak now.
Ibrahimovic is upset he has not been a regular starter and he has clashed with his coach over Barca's style of play.
So the chance to be involved in building a new club to rival Europe's best is an attractive proposition, especially with such a salary on offer.
The striker is familiar with City boss Roberto Mancini after the pair's time together at Inter Milan.
A source close to Ibrahimovic said: "City have shown how much they want Zlatan and although he is well paid at Barcelona this offer is in a different league.
"It has given him plenty to think about especially when he is not so happy with his football at Barca.
"The idea of being part of a move to create a new super club to challenge the very best in Europe is also attractive.
"City have to agree a deal with Barcelona before this can go any further - but there's a feeling that could all happen fairly quickly now."
Unsettled Brazilian star Robinho could move to Barcelona as a makeweight in the deal.
Ibrahimovic's arrival would raise more questions about the futures of strikers Carlos Tevez, Emmanuel Adebayor, Roque Santa Cruz and Craig Bellamy as City continue their spree.


Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3093647/Manchester-City-are-ready-to-make-Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-a-50000-a-week-deal.html#ixzz0wR8Xce1w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... z0wR8Xce1w</a>

this is embarrassing that this is even being published.
 
Taylor said:
Taken from tomorrows sun.... talk about bull:

MANCHESTER City have offered Zlatan Ibrahimovic a four-year deal worth a staggering £96MILLION - or roughly £500,000 a week.
The mega-deal would make the Barcelona striker the highest-paid footballer in the world, earning £24m a year.
That dwarfs the salaries of top stars such as Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka.
City representatives made their mouth-watering offer direct to Ibrahimovic's manager Mino Raiola to show how much they want to capture the Swedish international.
The huge deal dwarfs the 11m euros a year the striker picks up at the Nou Camp.
Ibrahimovic is unsettled at Barca despite joining only last summer in a 50m euro deal that also took Samuel Eto'o from Barcelona to the San Siro.
The enigmatic forward fell out with Barca coach Pep Guardiola in February and the pair barely speak now.
Ibrahimovic is upset he has not been a regular starter and he has clashed with his coach over Barca's style of play.
So the chance to be involved in building a new club to rival Europe's best is an attractive proposition, especially with such a salary on offer.
The striker is familiar with City boss Roberto Mancini after the pair's time together at Inter Milan.
A source close to Ibrahimovic said: "City have shown how much they want Zlatan and although he is well paid at Barcelona this offer is in a different league.
"It has given him plenty to think about especially when he is not so happy with his football at Barca.
"The idea of being part of a move to create a new super club to challenge the very best in Europe is also attractive.
"City have to agree a deal with Barcelona before this can go any further - but there's a feeling that could all happen fairly quickly now."
Unsettled Brazilian star Robinho could move to Barcelona as a makeweight in the deal.
Ibrahimovic's arrival would raise more questions about the futures of strikers Carlos Tevez, Emmanuel Adebayor, Roque Santa Cruz and Craig Bellamy as City continue their spree.


Read more: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3093647/Manchester-City-are-ready-to-make-Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-a-50000-a-week-deal.html#ixzz0wR8Xce1w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... z0wR8Xce1w</a>

good old sun is only ok to wipe your arse on
 

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