Ice Hockey | Player arrested for manslaughter following death of Adam Johnson (P18)

[mancityscot]

manslaughter is appropriate i think. Clear intent to cause serious harm

 

[Gray]

manslaughter is appropriate i think. Clear intent to cause serious harm

Difficult to prove he meant to do it, only he knows if he did.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

But he's not 'meant' to kill him, hence the manslaughter charge.

Similar to running someone over on purpose. You might not have meant to kill them...

 

[blueinsa]

Obviously not...

Has he been found guilty or is it just standard procedure these days when someone is killed?

He has been arrested, nothing more as yet and we will see how it pans out.

My opinion as a hockey fan who has watched the game since the 80’s is this was a one in a million freak accident, nothing more. An opinion the vast majority of the hockey world seems to share.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

manslaughter is appropriate i think. Clear intent to cause serious harm

Intent to cause serious harm ending in death = murder.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Intent to cause serious harm ending in death = murder.

How do you see it, GDM? If a sportsman goes “to do” an opponent that results in death, it seems a little more than manslaughter, but seems harsh or hard to prove intent and therefore murder?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

How do you see it, GDM? If a sportsman goes “to do” an opponent that results in death, it seems a little more than manslaughter, but seems harsh or hard to prove intent and therefore murder?

The law around sport is quite nuanced tbf but there is a case called Brown that was to do with sadomasachism which found that you can consent to common assault and battery being committed upon your person (and possibly ABH, can’t quite remember it’s been that long) but not GBH - and I always assumed team sport fell broadly into that realm. Only an educated guess, but it makes sense. By playing ice hockey you must consent to being assaulted (as would be the case elsewhere) but that cannot be without limits. To suggest otherwise would be absurd. As with all assaults, the intent will be key (along with the injuries sustained).

Might ask someone tomorrow!

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

In footballing parle, it looked to me like 'he left his foot in'. If that's the norm in then things are about to change very quickly in that area. Obviously there was no intent to endanger life but still a tragic consequence, nonetheless.

 

[lefty goldblatt]

Ashley Williams got lucky

Seriously, only the player involved will know if there's any intent. A bit like Mad Mario's "stamp" on Scoddy Parker

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Haven't watched a clip of it and don't want to but have to ask how did he die? What happened?