ID cards.

[urban genie]

That's not the point I'm making. If people are upset about this then why would they willingly divulge private information about themselves on the internet? Privacy is now uncared for by many people.

That is by personal choice though, not enforced.

Also when we are all told it's £100 to get your ID and they put a time limit on its validity and further payments for new ones every 5 or 10 years, it will be just another con on the public masked as protecting us.


Introduce a basic plastic ID card with name, D.OB. photo I aint arsed, any chipped or biometric ones I have a passporot for that already

 

[BlueHammer85]

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

So, not compulsory for people to use it and if you want to do stuff in the old analogue fashion, you can.

 

[mosssideblue]

The mental gymnastics these last few pages to justify outrage has been hilarious. Well done BM

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Total waste of time and money.

I’ve read it’s going to cost billions. At the same time as all of our bills going up and cuts to lots of public services.

Was this ever mentioned when labour were campaigning before the election?

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I don't think he's ever endorsed bringing in ID cards, just pointed out at every opportunity that France's help them with illegal immigrants.

Do Id cards help France with illegal immigrants or stopping them?

It doesn’t seem to have done anything to stop huge amounts of people entering France illegally or working illegally

 

[Sk@mcfc]

My barber is the same, bang's on about the Chinese and social credits.

Not in Denton is it lol

 

[I'm With Stupid]

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Genuine question. Is there any evidence that countries with compulsory IDs have lower illegal immigration, benefit fraud or tax fraud? I've looked and I couldn't find any concrete evidence for their claimed benefits tbh. The only example I could find is that electronic IDs reduced some admin costs in Estonia. And other than that, the benefits were limited to very specific circumstances. Cracking down on illegal workers, for example, still relies on workplace inspections more than ID cards.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Surprise, Surprise, all the lefties on here are all in favour of this ID card..any who aren't?

I thought it was the other way around?

 

[domalino]

Do Id cards help France with illegal immigrants or stopping them?

It doesn’t seem to have done anything to stop huge amounts of people entering France illegally or working illegally

It stops people using public services ie unless they’re entitled to it and it’s often cited as the reason so many asylum seekers try to cross the channel to the UK instead of remaining in France.

The thing is we all know the solution to the asylum crisis is not simple and can’t be done overnight. It’s going to be a really long process of hiring more and more home office workers and magistrates to process claims quicker, form diplomatic partnerships with neighbouring countries and build infrastructure to house people waiting for claims so they aren’t in hotels.

But Labour are doing all of that, and the public is so impatient Reform (despite their zero solutions to the crisis) are getting more support so the government have to do something that makes people feel like more is happening by quicker.

YouGovs last polls on this show about 55-60% support it and only 10% are strongly opposed, so it’s (despite the response on here) broadly popular with the general public, the last 25 years has seen technology render most of the arguments against them moot because we’re giving up all the personal information anyway.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Whats the problem proving who you are? Don’t want ID card carry your passport on you, don’t have a passport carry your driving licence, don’t have one of them get an ID card. How many people just click cookies on the internet etc if your worried about people getting your information I’m sorry to inform you they already have it, they know you like dog porn and shopping at Primark.

 

[Lowtower]

That's what's thrown at him all the time, totally ignoring the 99% of stuff he's been proven correct on.

True mate

Fred West was a decent builder, but the ol' bodies in the garden/basement/walls is used against him

Just not right is it?

 

[Craig]

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Agree if Farage came up with it his sycophants would lap it up. Just seems like another load of bollocks though in reality. It’s not going to stop illegal immigrants coming in and it’s not going to do anything to stop the estimated 100k slave workes in this country.

Seems like another move towards total control of the population. Labour continue to worry about reform and trying to compete with them on something they’ll never beat them on. More alienation of their core voters and their policies remain pretty unclear in general.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I can't get my head around people arguing its un-British who also moan when they have to take 2 utility bills in their name to the Post Office to obtain a small loan yet those same people spill loads of personal info to Pornhub so they can watch mucky movies - I mean I know I trust the DVLA with my data ref driving more than I would some overseas dodgy platform.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I imagine you make it compulsory to produce the ID and log it into the company system. No ID, no work. If an Employer wants to bypass this they can, but you will be at risk of a substantial fine. It simplifies the process.

I did some digging and I guess it goes along with these measures.

Crackdown on illegal working and rogue employers in ‘gig economy’

In the latest move to restore order to the asylum and immigration system, the government will introduce tough new laws to clamp down on illegal working.

www.gov.uk

But they’re supposed to check now, that a person has the right to work here. An undocumented ‘illegal’ working for £1.25 an hour will still be a tempter for some (and we’ll all be working for that, once Nigel has thrown them all out)…

 

[Really_here]

Here comes another multi billion £ farce. I wonder which super efficient government 'service' provider is going to get the contract for this? Get ready for more tax increases to pay them as the intial costs escalate.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Looks like it’s had the desired effect of making the media focus on a pointless, expensive gimmick ahead of the Labour Party conference, instead of how shit this government has been.

 

[Bluesince1979]

If you think the reason is to stop the illegal immigration then youre all naive beyond belief

Im constantly amazed that so many people are happy to do what they are fucking told without question.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Seems tone deaf to me. Post covid we live in a very sceptical world, now even questioning paracetamol for fucks sake. The idea in that environment, you suggest ID cards is bonkers

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Whats the problem proving who you are? Don’t want ID card carry your passport on you, don’t have a passport carry your driving licence, don’t have one of them get an ID card. How many people just click cookies on the internet etc if your worried about people getting your information I’m sorry to inform you they already have it, they know you like dog porn and shopping at Primark.

Yeah, but they don't know that I like watching dog porn while shopping at Primark.......do they?