If Mancini was here, we would be...

[BlueRockape]

And how do you know he ain't coming back? Stranger things have happend

Because he's not good enough to where we want to be. I love him because he gave me the greatest Day of my life but feel starting threads like 'if mancini was here....' is a little sad and proves some posters can't move on. Imo.

The sacking was controversial - it wasn't like all the others who had clearly failed and were a spent force. Yes players got a bit mardy, yes he was a awkward character - but many believe another season with full backing was warranted - and yes many didn't.
The forum is full of debates about comparisons of players, teams, even fans - why don't you go and tell them to stop being sad.

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Yep all we had to do is let him weed out the trouble makers give him the same money as MP and things would have been fine. But oh no we keep the mard arse bastards and get rid of the best manager we have had since JM

 

[Anonymous]

Don't you think it's unhealthy for grown men to be crying over an ex manager. Get it in your heads that he's never coming back.

It's time to move on and support pellegrini, after all you support Manchester city not Mancini city, right?

 

[Anonymous]

Yep all we had to do is let him weed out the trouble makers give him the same money as MP and things would have been fine. But oh no we keep the mard arse bastards and get rid of the best manager we have had since JM

You miss one very important fact. It was the owners who decided to sack Mancini, not the players. And since it's their money and they are more than entitled to choose how it's spent, I think a lot of the reminiscing about Roberto and haranguing of our squad because Roberto was sacked is wildly misplaced.

Notwithstanding that, Mancini was sacked not just because a lot of the players didn't like him, but because most of the board of directors and people who worked at the club didn't like him either. And for good reason when you look at his public displays of contempt for them.

 

[Balti]

Because he's not good enough to where we want to be. I love him because he gave me the greatest Day of my life but feel starting threads like 'if mancini was here....' is a little sad and proves some posters can't move on. Imo.

The sacking was controversial - it wasn't like all the others who had clearly failed and were a spent force. Yes players got a bit mardy, yes he was a awkward character - but many believe another season with full backing was warranted - and yes many didn't.
The forum is full of debates about comparisons of players, teams, even fans - why don't you go and tell them to stop being sad.

u


Yep all we had to do is let him weed out the trouble makers give him the same money as MP and things would have been fine. But oh no we keep the mard arse bastards and get rid of the best manager we have had since JM

what goes around comes around

holistically speaking

 

[BlueRockape]

Yep all we had to do is let him weed out the trouble makers give him the same money as MP and things would have been fine. But oh no we keep the mard arse bastards and get rid of the best manager we have had since JM

You miss one very important fact. It was the owners who decided to sack Mancini, not the players. And since it's their money and they are more than entitled to choose how it's spent, I think a lot of the reminiscing about Roberto and haranguing of our squad because Roberto was sacked is wildly misplaced.

Notwithstanding that, Mancini was sacked not just because a lot of the players didn't like him, but because most of the board of directors and people who worked at the club didn't like him either. And for good reason when you look at his public displays of contempt for them.

Billy I truly respect you as a poster on here, .But liking people what the fuk has that got to do with anything its about wining and taking the club forward fukin like Jesus h. Do you really think that every rag player and supporter loved GPC. That's what is wrong with us we are so used to being good losers we have no wining mentality which is what BM brought I didn't have to like him just do what he was doing . But never mind we have a lovely guy in charge now ( shakes head and fuks off)

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Yep all we had to do is let him weed out the trouble makers give him the same money as MP and things would have been fine. But oh no we keep the mard arse bastards and get rid of the best manager we have had since JM

You miss one very important fact. It was the owners who decided to sack Mancini, not the players. And since it's their money and they are more than entitled to choose how it's spent, I think a lot of the reminiscing about Roberto and haranguing of our squad because Roberto was sacked is wildly misplaced.

Notwithstanding that, Mancini was sacked not just because a lot of the players didn't like him, but because most of the board of directors and people who worked at the club didn't like him either. And for good reason when you look at his public displays of contempt for them.

Bloody hell Billy - you're like Whackamole. Can you smell a Mancini post at a 1000 yards?

You're right - he did have comtempt - but for F and T not for the Owners. You can wrap it up and try to link it to the Sheikh however you like - but when he was backed and before F and T came in - we were on the right track and successful.
I know we will be successful again - given time - we can't fail to be given the Owner - but at the moment it feels like we've taken a step back.

 

[Anonymous]

Billy I truly respect you as a poster on here, .But liking people what the fuk has that got to do with anything its about wining and taking the club forward fukin like Jesus h. Do you really think that every rag player and supporter loved GPC. That's what is wrong with us we are so used to being good losers we have no wining mentality which is what BM brought I didn't have to like him just do what he was doing . But never mind we have a lovely guy in charge now ( shakes head and fuks off)

Rather than getting angry why don't you take a step back, take a deep breath and then think about what I posted. It's not about being universally loved. It's about respect. Mancini didn't carry the respect of many of the players and many of the executives who run the club. So that scenario was finished. Looking backwards is truly futile and pointless because regardless of who replaced him, Mancini's time was up.

For what it's worth I didn't like Mancini or what he was doing to our club. He was turning us into the kind of freakshow that Mourinho turned Madrid into, no matter how many trophies he was winning. I don't want to win like that, and I don't care how much shit I take for saying it.<br /><br />-- Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:12 pm --<br /><br />

Bloody hell Billy - you're like Whackamole. Can you smell a Mancini post at a 1000 yards?

It's hard to miss a 15 page thread which has Mancini in the title. I waited until I had something to say rather than just coming and mocking the OP which is what my initial temptation was. That's some kind of progress i guess ... :)

Regarding the rest of your post, it's simple. Mancini clearly didn't have the backing of T & F last summer. They speak for the owners along with Khaldoon. So it's not about linking it to the owners. It's about stating a fact - we are owned by Sheikh Mansour and he wanted the club to go in a certain direction both on the field and off. Mancini was no longer part of that plan so he went. Like you say, success will come again. I happen to believe it'll come with Pellegrini.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Billy I truly respect you as a poster on here, .But liking people what the fuk has that got to do with anything its about wining and taking the club forward fukin like Jesus h. Do you really think that every rag player and supporter loved GPC. That's what is wrong with us we are so used to being good losers we have no wining mentality which is what BM brought I didn't have to like him just do what he was doing . But never mind we have a lovely guy in charge now ( shakes head and fuks off)

Rather than getting angry why don't you take a step back, take a deep breath and then think about what I posted. It's not about being universally loved. It's about respect. Mancini didn't carry the respect of many of the players and many of the executives who run the club. So that scenario was finished. Looking backwards is truly futile and pointless because regardless of who replaced him, Mancini's time was up.

For what it's worth I didn't like Mancini or what he was doing to our club. He was turning us into the kind of freakshow that Mourinho turned Madrid into, no matter how many trophies he was winning. I don't want to win like that, and I don't care how much shit I take for saying it.

Jeez - if they didn't respect him for his desire, drive, bringing the first trophies in decades, his playing career, his managerial career, not accepting poor performances, not massaging egos, will to win etc what would they respect him for??
Now they have all they asked for and although green shoots do appear from time to time - nothing is sustained or clearly evident.

 

[BlueRockape]

Billy I truly respect you as a poster on here, .But liking people what the fuk has that got to do with anything its about wining and taking the club forward fukin like Jesus h. Do you really think that every rag player and supporter loved GPC. That's what is wrong with us we are so used to being good losers we have no wining mentality which is what BM brought I didn't have to like him just do what he was doing . But never mind we have a lovely guy in charge now ( shakes head and fuks off)

Rather than getting angry why don't you take a step back, take a deep breath and then think about what I posted. It's not about being universally loved. It's about respect. Mancini didn't carry the respect of many of the players and many of the executives who run the club. So that scenario was finished. Looking backwards is truly futile and pointless because regardless of who replaced him, Mancini's time was up.

For what it's worth I didn't like Mancini or what he was doing to our club. He was turning us into the kind of freakshow that Mourinho turned Madrid into, no matter how many trophies he was winning. I don't want to win like that, and I don't care how much shit I take for saying it.

I didn't take any shit off anyone and after watching utter dross since the loss of JM this guy was making my dreams come true . After being a City supporter for some 50 yes do you think I give a shite about what fukin rags think. And by the wayBilly iI am not angry just totaly discusted with getting rid of a winner for the sake of personality

 

[Anonymous]

Jeez - if they didn't respect him for his desire, drive, bringing the first trophies in decades, his playing career, his managerial career, not accepting poor performances, not massaging egos, will to win etc what would they respect him for??
Now they have all they asked for and although green shoots do appear from time to time - nothing is sustained or clearly evident.

I don't understand. They didn't respect him because he talked shit about them publicly. They didn't respect him because he didn't respect the clear authority they had. Mancini is certainly a winner, but he's a winner with a shelf life at any club because of his own abrasive, arrogant, uncompromising ways. Maybe we could've eked another season out of him, but I suspect the owners wanted to change many things at the club and Mancini wasn't going to acquiesce to many of the changes so removing him was the best thing for them and the club.

 

[BlueRockape]

Jeez - if they didn't respect him for his desire, drive, bringing the first trophies in decades, his playing career, his managerial career, not accepting poor performances, not massaging egos, will to win etc what would they respect him for??
Now they have all they asked for and although green shoots do appear from time to time - nothing is sustained or clearly evident.

I don't understand. They didn't respect him because he talked shit about them publicly. They didn't respect him because he didn't respect the clear authority they had. Mancini is certainly a winner, but he's a winner with a shelf life at any club because of his own abrasive, arrogant, uncompromising ways. Maybe we could've eked another season out of him, but I suspect the owners wanted to change many things at the club and Mancini wasn't going to acquiesce to many of the changes so removing him was the best thing for them and the club.

Sounds just like the GPC but he didn't do too bad did he ?

 

[Anonymous]

Jeez - if they didn't respect him for his desire, drive, bringing the first trophies in decades, his playing career, his managerial career, not accepting poor performances, not massaging egos, will to win etc what would they respect him for??
Now they have all they asked for and although green shoots do appear from time to time - nothing is sustained or clearly evident.

I don't understand. They didn't respect him because he talked shit about them publicly. They didn't respect him because he didn't respect the clear authority they had. Mancini is certainly a winner, but he's a winner with a shelf life at any club because of his own abrasive, arrogant, uncompromising ways. Maybe we could've eked another season out of him, but I suspect the owners wanted to change many things at the club and Mancini wasn't going to acquiesce to many of the changes so removing him was the best thing for them and the club.

Sounds just like the GPC but he didn't do too bad did he ?

Ferguson had the respect of nearly everyone behind the scenes at United. The players feared him but respected him. The people who worked alongside him revered the man. He was the polar opposite of Mancini in that he was a company man who never ever publicly criticised the people who were running United. He rarely criticised his players in public.

If you think Mancini and Ferguson were similar you are way off in your assessments IMO.

 

[BlueRockape]

I don't understand. They didn't respect him because he talked shit about them publicly. They didn't respect him because he didn't respect the clear authority they had. Mancini is certainly a winner, but he's a winner with a shelf life at any club because of his own abrasive, arrogant, uncompromising ways. Maybe we could've eked another season out of him, but I suspect the owners wanted to change many things at the club and Mancini wasn't going to acquiesce to many of the changes so removing him was the best thing for them and the club.

Sounds just like the GPC but he didn't do too bad did he ?

Ferguson had the respect of nearly everyone behind the scenes at United. The players feared him but respected him. The people who worked alongside him revered the man. He was the polar opposite of Mancini in that he was a company man who never ever publicly criticised the people who were running United. He rarely criticised his players in public.

If you think Mancini and Ferguson were similar you are way off in your assessments IMO.

Both winners in there own way, and don't forget Ferguson after four years was on his way out .And you are correct he didn't critisise his players in public the man who was so well loved waited until he was finished and like the twat he is put it in a book

 

[andyhinch]

I don't understand. They didn't respect him because he talked shit about them publicly. They didn't respect him because he didn't respect the clear authority they had. Mancini is certainly a winner, but he's a winner with a shelf life at any club because of his own abrasive, arrogant, uncompromising ways. Maybe we could've eked another season out of him, but I suspect the owners wanted to change many things at the club and Mancini wasn't going to acquiesce to many of the changes so removing him was the best thing for them and the club.

Sounds just like the GPC but he didn't do too bad did he ?

Ferguson had the respect of nearly everyone behind the scenes at United. The players feared him but respected him. The people who worked alongside him revered the man. He was the polar opposite of Mancini in that he was a company man who never ever publicly criticised the people who were ruining United. He rarely criticised his players in public.

If you think Mancini and Ferguson were similar you are way off in your assessments IMO.

Quick edit for you:)

 

[bobmcfc]

Ferguson was feared by his players. The ones that crossed him were soon shipped out and his well publicised hair dryer treatment can only be imagined. One case where for long periods the manager was indeed bigger than the club or anyone at it.

 

[Anonymous]

Both winners in there own way, and don't forget Ferguson after four years was on his way out .And you are correct he didn't critisise his players in public the man who was so well loved waited until he was finished and like the twat he is put it in a book

We're drifting further and further away from my original point. Mancini had to go. Whether you rate Pellegrini or not is a different matter, but because of his own nature and because of the direction the owners wanted to take the club in, he had to go. As I say, maybe they could've eked another season out of him, but the moment it was decided Txiki and Ferran were going to be the new kingmakers at City, it will have been apparent to Khaldoon and Mansour that this would mean letting Mancini go.

 

[BlueRockape]

Both winners in there own way, and don't forget Ferguson after four years was on his way out .And you are correct he didn't critisise his players in public the man who was so well loved waited until he was finished and like the twat he is put it in a book

We're drifting further and further away from my original point. Mancini had to go. Whether you rate Pellegrini or not is a different matter, but because of his own nature and because of the direction the owners wanted to take the club in, he had to go. As I say, maybe they could've eked another season out of him, but the moment it was decided Txiki and Ferran were going to be the new kingmakers at City, it will have been apparent to Khaldoon and Mansour that this would mean letting Mancini go.

OK Billy we will agree to differ . But in the words of the great man Bill Shnkly " first is first second is nothing" I as a City supporter want to be first now I have had the taste, I don't give a toss about the politics.

 

[yayas trusty right foot]

Bob is a great manager and i wish he was still here but he just wanted to much power and in the end it was his downfall..

I think he probabily regrets how he handles some things and will learn from that in his next job..

 

[Thenumber1blue]

Ifs and buts are pointless !

 

[somethingelse]

mancini didn't "have to go" a number of things could of happened ,the owners could of come down on Mancinis side and honoured the 5 year contract they gave him ,removing feran and trikki for people who would support mancini not work to destroy him, they must be wondering if they have been properly advised after all,pel is 1 or 2 defeats away from a very grim future,hopefully he will take the 2 amigos with him