If we win FA cup would you keep Mancini?

[BoyBlue_1985]

I'd keep him if we win it / don't win it / come 1st in the Prem / come 2nd, 3rd or 4th in the Prem.

Mancini, wooooooooooo wooooooooooo....

then you dont have our club's future in best interests............

Bollocks. Some people think Mancini staying is the best thing for the club.

Yes but MES said keep him no matter what. It makes no sense

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Practically speaking, it's the owner's decision.
I am just asking your opinions

For me it's important that we keep him. He is very important manager.

I'm sure you're well meaning - but you're not really helping things!

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

Apples an oranges. Our owners want to build an elite club and Arsenal under Kroenke (rather than Usmanov) are a well run business that pay out dividends each year. One club aims for title and one club aims for top 4. It's incomparable. Wenger coaches a team that's lost RVP, Nasri, Fabregas, Clichy, Song and Almunia in recent seasons. I'm absolutely convinced they'd be in the title mix had they kept all these players. How d you think Mancini would fair if we sold Aguero, Silva, Yaya, Zaba etc and replaced constantly with inferior talents.

Whilst I agree with you that Wenger is a better manager than Mancini, Wenger can be held partly responsible for the above happening.

He's got the resources to replace any outgoing stars and the reasons why the likes of those big players have left is down to AW's stubborness to buy proven players to go along side them.

He hasn't got the funds though, Kroeke demands they post a profit every year and knows Wenger is fighting a battle on field and with fans, that's why he's paid handsomely.

Usmanov wants to buy club and bankroll a title battle, Kroenke is a businessman, Arsenal is now a business.

City invest, Arsenal profit take. There's nothing else to it than that. It's incomparable.

Wenger is a fundamentally better coach, every player on his books got better through him, few are unhappy at the club. The things that cost Arsenal silverware is their wage system (socialist model, the fringe players on too much and th best on too little) and the profit taking board.

I don't believe Arsenal offer Wenger a war chest, I am lead to believe they treaded water this season and plan to invest a bit in the summer with new tv and the likes of Arshavin off the wage bill.

Whilst I don't believe they have a mega warchest, Wenger has had ample opportunity to strengthen the team. Instead, he leaves it til the last minute, whilst maintainting he has his strongest ever team to work with, and then panic buys players like Mertersacker, Arteta & Andre Santos and also buys dross such as Andre Santos & Gervinho.

I'll be very surprised to see Wenger splash the cash in an "unordinary" way in the summer.

As for TCM avoiding your question, I eventually got him to give it me a few days ago (albeit said in a politician-like manner).

He said "due to Jose's trophy count", he's better than Mancini.

In all seriousness, I don't think anybody out there, City fan or not, believes Mancini to be a better manager than Mourinho. IMO, the people who do say that, say it borne out of loyalty to him for bring the success you've waited so long for, or because of a personal hatred for Mourinho himself. It most certainly doesn't come down to their respective CV's.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Cheers.

He knows it too that's why he responded the way he did. What he knows you can write on the back of a stamp.

You now want wenger at our club?
Nip clock out and go home

I'd have him over Mancini, however he isn't my choice.

You were th first to insult. You never highlighted where I was wrong with my valid post and you also failed to understand the difference in ambitions between City and Arsenal.

Where have I been a hypocrite then?

I said Weneger is a better coach which he is. Strong man manager, great developer of talent and experienced. I question his principles but if he was just a coach to a D.O.F system it'd be great.

Klopp or Jose over him though. Everyday.

Anyway, keep going, I will bat away any curveballs from you.

Nip i batted you right off the mancini out thread,
Hears what they think of wenger(the one who you think can save us) on the arsenal forum

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[NipHolmes]

You now want wenger at our club?
Nip clock out and go home

I'd have him over Mancini, however he isn't my choice.

You were th first to insult. You never highlighted where I was wrong with my valid post and you also failed to understand the difference in ambitions between City and Arsenal.

Where have I been a hypocrite then?

I said Weneger is a better coach which he is. Strong man manager, great developer of talent and experienced. I question his principles but if he was just a coach to a D.O.F system it'd be great.

Klopp or Jose over him though. Everyday.

Anyway, keep going, I will bat away any curveballs from you.

Nip i batted you right off the mancini out thread,
Hears what they think of wenger(the one who you think can save us) on the arsenal forum

<a class="postlink" href="http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=293182&start=1020" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopi ... start=1020</a>

No you didn't. I simply got fed up of going in circles. You arrogantly debate like you know better when you absolutely don't. My debates are based on knowledge and what I've seen. You assume and twist rather than battle.

Arsenal fans are paying high ST prices and have quite rightly had enough. However its Kroenke who must go, not the manager.

I expect hyperbole after losing to Blackburn, they don't consider the Bayern match this week in their thoughts obviously. It'd be like Swansea fans moaning about yesterday. Look at the big picture.

By the way, I clearly said if we keep Mancini then he must be here for years. I simply believe there's better out there who I'd favour.

Show me where you pushed me out too. Will make for an easy day blowing you out the water.

 

[moomba]

then you dont have our club's future in best interests............

Bollocks. Some people think Mancini staying is the best thing for the club.

Yes but MES said keep him no matter what. It makes no sense

I won't answer for him but makes perfect sense to me (even if I don't necessarily agree).

 

[bernabias home shirt]

I'd have him over Mancini, however he isn't my choice.

You were th first to insult. You never highlighted where I was wrong with my valid post and you also failed to understand the difference in ambitions between City and Arsenal.

Where have I been a hypocrite then?

I said Weneger is a better coach which he is. Strong man manager, great developer of talent and experienced. I question his principles but if he was just a coach to a D.O.F system it'd be great.

Klopp or Jose over him though. Everyday.

Anyway, keep going, I will bat away any curveballs from you.

Nip i batted you right off the mancini out thread,
Hears what they think of wenger(the one who you think can save us) on the arsenal forum

<a class="postlink" href="http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=293182&start=1020" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopi ... start=1020</a>

No you didn't. I simply got fed up of going in circles. You arrogantly debate like you know better when you absolutely don't. My debates are based on knowledge and what I've seen. You assume and twist rather than battle.

Arsenal fans are paying high ST prices and have quite rightly had enough. However its Kroenke who must go, not the manager.

I expect hyperbole after losing to Blackburn, they don't consider the Bayern match this week in their thoughts obviously. It'd be like Swansea fans moaning about yesterday. Look at the big picture.

By the way, I clearly said if we keep Mancini then he must be here for years. I simply believe there's better out there who I'd favour.

Show me where you pushed me out too. Will make for an easy day blowing you out the water.

So let me get this right.... you think wenger should stay as he hasnt won a trophy in 8 years
And the arsenal fans are wrong for wanting him gone
But you want mancini out for not winning us a trophy in 8 months?

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Nip i batted you right off the mancini out thread,
Hears what they think of wenger(the one who you think can save us) on the arsenal forum

<a class="postlink" href="http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=293182&start=1020" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopi ... start=1020</a>

No you didn't. I simply got fed up of going in circles. You arrogantly debate like you know better when you absolutely don't. My debates are based on knowledge and what I've seen. You assume and twist rather than battle.

Arsenal fans are paying high ST prices and have quite rightly had enough. However its Kroenke who must go, not the manager.

I expect hyperbole after losing to Blackburn, they don't consider the Bayern match this week in their thoughts obviously. It'd be like Swansea fans moaning about yesterday. Look at the big picture.

By the way, I clearly said if we keep Mancini then he must be here for years. I simply believe there's better out there who I'd favour.

Show me where you pushed me out too. Will make for an easy day blowing you out the water.

So let me get this right.... you think wenger should stay as he hasnt won a trophy in 8 years
And the arsenal fans are wrong for wanting him gone
But you want mancini out for not winning us a trophy in 8 months?

Its 6, charity shield sort of counts

 

[Бравый Дератизатор]

No.
He's like an anchor.
It's obvious that the Club ( especially young players) will not develop while he is in charge

 

[SuperYaya]

I would keep him regardless.

It's a tough think to ask for, but I think we need to be patient. The longer a manager has to build a squad, the more they can get out of it. Stability is one of the most important things in football, next to spending. Chelsea have had half of that and they've won a lot of things, imagine if we combine both.

I think he will stay anyway. The Spaniards are concerned with keeping unnecessary costs down and hiring a new manager is one of the most costly things to do. We'd have to pay off Bobby's remaining 4 years, pay a new manager, let him buy players to 'create his own squad' and sell players he's not interested in for a cut price. All this money could be used to add one or two class players to an already good squad and improve the team further.