I'm thinking it is corrupt

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Re: I admit defeat .. we are being robbed !!

Funnily enough, I went the other way. Agreed it was an appalling, but typical, decision at the swamp but how shit were United ? Very, very nervy. In fact, more so than I can remember seeing them. I now know that we really are getting to them and any team that gets at them, as some will have to, stands a decent chance of getting a result.

Teams turn up at The Swamp remembering how they fared over last few seasons and they chuck in the towel as they come out of the tunnel. It's only after they have played a half and the manager has re-affirmed how shit MANUre are this season that they put a game together and try to have a go. All to no avail, of course, when Vic Oliver decides that he has forgotten momentarily around the 89th minute the list of offences for which a penalty must be awarded!

 

[The Future's Blue]

Am I the only one who didn't think Barry's was a penalty. As I seen it Whelan had over-run the ball and had to lunge to get a toe on it. Barry was coming but didn't throw himself in, just tried to play the ball as it was loose. If Whelan hadn't thrown himself in there Barry wouldn't have caught him.

I class that as a collision, not a foul.

 

[MCFC BOB]

Seeing it first time I thought good tackle....so did every commentator on ESPN

On the reply it was a penalty, no doubt.

But I can understand why the ref fucked up.

No conspiracy. Stop it with this shit. it was a bad decision thats all.

This conspiracy shit is getting old.

its in our own hands and we will succeed

-- Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:38 pm --

Someone needs to put together all these incidents and send it to newspapers, Radio 5 etc...they are happening week in week out at the moment.

They have and it makes us look silly

http://www.debatabledecisions.com/

Brilliant.

 

[moomba]

I don't think it's corrupt, but we would be several points ahead with totally neutral refereeing.

As for the Barry one, looked a pen to me, but difficult to spot (even the TV commentators didn't spot it straight away). On the balance of the game I don't think Stoke could argue that the refereeing cost them the win.

On the Murphy non penalty, it was as obvious as could be, I agree with SBF that the ref just bottled it.

But a loss for us, and a draw for the rags would have been better than what we got.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

No agenda, but the ref has seemingly folded under the pressure.

Just put yourself in his shoes, a young ref at Old Trafford, the man goes down. You get it wrong and you've got 70,000 people in the crowd beying for your blood. You have a split second to make an instinctive decision, so you follow the path of least resistance. It's easiest just to not give it, handle a small press shit storm and wait for it to be consigned to history. I can empathise, but there's no condoning the decision, it should have been a penalty and in another ground on another day it would probably have been, yes.

That doesn't mean there's an agenda though, it just means that some places and certain teams provide conditions which make it difficult for refs to be totally unbiased. This is one of those instances. The referees are human after all. I'm not saying that's right, morally or factually, but that's the way it seems to me.

So, what you are saying that he isn't fit to do his job to officiate the game in a neutral way?

That's OK then, we won't see him ref'ing again will we!

That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm also suggesting that unless they're a complete robot you'll struggle to find somebody who is capable of being completely neutral. People have defensive instincts by nature, stick them in front of 70,000 people and give them a split second to decide whether they want to upset them or not and you're bound to get some strange decisions.

 

[moomba]

They have and it makes us look silly

http://www.debatabledecisions.com/

Any website that makes out that United are worse off because of the referees doesn't make anyone look silly except itself, it's creators and the people that believe it.

 

[Bill]

Well it seems that another title is going to be decided not by football but by officials either bottling it or getting it wrong...same old same old..

dont be too sure, we are THAT good i think we can still do it. quite an achievment considering the obvious cheating to stop us.

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

Has anyone mentioned that it's not just refereeing decisions?

Steve Bruce has never won as a manager against them. Over 50 games I think. Coincidence that he's good mates with Slur Alex? What about the records of Harry Redknapp or David Moyes against them? Coincidence? Or the managers of the lesser teams who have been benefiting from their loan deals for years?

There is a calciopoli at play here and we just let it happen.

 

[Bill]

the bottom line is they simply dare not play it fair, we are so far ahead of everybody that the league would be over by xmas, then the viewing public would just not tune in, the premier league as a brand would suffer, too much money is on the table for this too happen. now times that world wide. nope, never in a month on sundays can that be allowed to happen.
look at the SPL, shite crowds, shite money deals, shite wages and thats in a two horse race let alone one.

 

[johnny crossan]

There is a calciopoli at play here and we just let it happen.