Yeah I agree. They provide more width when played that way. And I'd rather have Bernardo in the middle now than David Silva, in the big matches.
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Yeah I agree. They provide more width when played that way. And I'd rather have Bernardo in the middle now than David Silva, in the big matches.
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He’s no doubt our best defender and second best in the league but the assumption everything will be fine when he’s back is way off in my view. He will organise the backline and be a lot better 1v1 defender than we currently have but he can’t fix the wide open path to the centre defence from midfield so we will still be seeing the opposition get a handful of free go’s at our cb’s every week.
I actually think Sane is the bigger miss, he will improve us going forward with his pace, ability to go past players, directness, willingness to run off the ball and go down the outside plus the knock on effect of having sterling back on the right doing the same thing. All that is of more benefit to the side than what Laporte brings. If we can get by Madrid and get those two back we become a very different threat to the champions league.
I actually think Sane is the bigger miss, he will improve us going forward with his pace, ability to go past players, directness, willingness to run off the ball and go down the outside plus the knock on effect of having sterling back on the right doing the same thing. All that is of more benefit to the side than what Laporte brings. If we can get by Madrid and get those two back we become a very different threat to the champions league.
We’re the top scorers in the league and our defence has been shambolic at times since Laporte got injured.He’s no doubt our best defender and second best in the league but the assumption everything will be fine when he’s back is way off in my view. He will organise the backline and be a lot better 1v1 defender than we currently have but he can’t fix the wide open path to the centre defence from midfield so we will still be seeing the opposition get a handful of free go’s at our cb’s every week.
I actually think Sane is the bigger miss, he will improve us going forward with his pace, ability to go past players, directness, willingness to run off the ball and go down the outside plus the knock on effect of having sterling back on the right doing the same thing. All that is of more benefit to the side than what Laporte brings. If we can get by Madrid and get those two back we become a very different threat to the champions league.
Think it’s a stretch to argue Sane has been the bigger miss.
Tugay One Cup
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We’re the top scorers in the league and our defence has been shambolic at times since Laporte got injured.
Think it’s a stretch to argue Sane has been the bigger miss.
I still think Sane has been a huge miss but Laporte is literally our only quality defender.
We’re the top scorers in the league and our defence has been shambolic at times since Laporte got injured.
Think it’s a stretch to argue Sane has been the bigger miss.
Laporte plays 90 mins every game and Sané was starting about 30% of the games in the 6 months of 2019 he was fit.
There's no debate about who is a bigger miss.
We’re the top scorers in the league and our defence has been shambolic at times since Laporte got injured.
Think it’s a stretch to argue Sane has been the bigger miss.
Agree, Laporte is definitely the bigger miss, it's not just in defence he's missed either, his presence gives the whole side a much better balance.
shevtheblue
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I get a good feeling about a Laporte and Fern as a partnership, it's pretty much the same as Mascherano & Pique (but opposite foot). The problem (IMO) hasn't been that Fern has been pushed back, it's that he is having to be the one that organises the defence as well.
I don't think that's really trueI still think Sane has been a huge miss but Laporte is literally our only quality defender.
Walker is a good defender. Mendy struggled badly initially but I think he has been much better recently. I know he made a terrible mistake at Wolves but it's not yet clear how much more he can improve. I was too impatient when he came back. I think he's doing well now. More to do. Stones was good in 2018/19 alongside Laporte.
I bet if you took VVD out of Liverpool's back 4, then Gomez, Matip, TAA etc would fall to pieces.
the talisman
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I don't think that's really true
Walker is a good defender. Mendy struggled badly initially but I think he has been much better recently. I know he made a terrible mistake at Wolves but it's not yet clear how much more he can improve. I was too impatient when he came back. I think he's doing well now. More to do. Stones was good in 2018/19 alongside Laporte.
I bet if you took VVD out of Liverpool's back 4, then Gomez, Matip, TAA etc would fall to pieces.
Mendy has been hammered by that mistake against Wolves, but he was fouled, players shield the ball all the time, you can’t just barge them off the ball.
Mendy has been hammered by that mistake against Wolves, but he was fouled, players shield the ball all the time, you can’t just barge them off the ball.
He was but should never have been in a position to be fouled in the first place, his error was trying to allow a ball run out of play when it wasn't going to, like Delph against Spurs in the CL qf.
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Because he’s the best left winger in the league and Sterling is much better on the right. We have cups and 2nd place to fight 4 and he’ll improve the squad.
Absolutely Craig.
I know mate. Had he gone down it would have been disallowed. Blatant foul. He should however have cleared it.Mendy has been hammered by that mistake against Wolves, but he was fouled, players shield the ball all the time, you can’t just barge them off the ball.
the talisman
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He was but should never have been in a position to be fouled in the first place, his error was trying to allow a ball run out of play when it wasn't going to, like Delph against Spurs in the CL qf.
Fair enough but the goal shouldn’t have stood.
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I don't think that's really true
Walker is a good defender. Mendy struggled badly initially but I think he has been much better recently. I know he made a terrible mistake at Wolves but it's not yet clear how much more he can improve. I was too impatient when he came back. I think he's doing well now. More to do. Stones was good in 2018/19 alongside Laporte.
I bet if you took VVD out of Liverpool's back 4, then Gomez, Matip, TAA etc would fall to pieces.
That’s not a bet I would take. I think you underestimate the other players you’ve named there.
Halloween Jack
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He’d found a bit of form?? Give your head a wobble the lad is pure class. Had he and VK been our CB pairing this season as the were at the end of the last we would be fucking top
He wasn't "pure class" lol. Granted he was the best we had, but since he has been injured there has been some sort of legend built around him.
He wasn't "pure class" lol. Granted he was the best we had, but since he has been injured there has been some sort of legend built around him.
Is that referring to Laporte? There's a reason his peers voted him in the PL team of the year.
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The only debate is whether he was the best or second best in the league last season.He wasn't "pure class" lol. Granted he was the best we had, but since he has been injured there has been some sort of legend built around him.
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Mendy has been hammered by that mistake against Wolves, but he was fouled, players shield the ball all the time, you can’t just barge them off the ball.
But he was shielding the ball for an opposition corner , he just not very bright.
jimmygrimblesboots
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He wasn't "pure class" lol. Granted he was the best we had, but since he has been injured there has been some sort of legend built around him.
No one on here has built him into any legend , just your pathetic attempt at sarcasm , before his injury he was part of the Premier league team of the season , which usually means he is rather good at football , if you cannot contemplate how we have struggled defensively since his injury ,i suggest you look at our goals against column in comparison to last season.
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That’s not a bet I would take. I think you underestimate the other players you’ve named there.
Their defence was pretty average before they signed VVD. One player can make a huge difference.
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