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supercity88 said:
Agree completely. I would love to see us integrate some younger players to help the burden. I don't think throwing one or two in would make much difference and will help with the number of games we have and the lack of recovery time. The younger players will recover far quicker. This season should be sacking the league cup off really, but Pep just will not do it. He wants to win everything, but I think it hurts us when it comes to the Champions League knockouts.

The way we're playing this season we're also not really controlling games and so the amount of running will be a lot higher. Usually we'd punish teams early and then pass it around and manage the game. We seem to have lost that and end up in this end to end counter attacking football which requires effort right to the end of the match. At least in the CL you can still make the 5 subs. And hopefully game management improves as we get into the season. A lot of poor passing and mistakes throughout the side so far.
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I agree with all of that, mate. We have been very poor and disjointed this season because of the disruption. The problem with the kids, though, is that there is an enormous gap between being a top EDS player and being a competent premier league player. It's taken Foden two years to bridge it, and he's still patchy. Also, Pep is having to give unfit players like Gundogan and Aguero game time just to get them up to speed. It's a tough job for him at the moment but I'm absolutely confident that given time together as a squad we will improve significantly.
 
Easy said:
I have to agree with this.

Fernandinho is injured and I would give Doyle a start this weekend. He’s played well in his recent starts. Mature performances, kept the ball well, worked hard defensively and displayed his technique.

If he starts with all the first team regulars again he won’t look out of place. Rodri is starting a lot of consecutive games and Gundogan is just back from Covid so we don’t have too many options in midfield. Give Doyle a game.
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Agreed but would be very surprised to see Doyle start a league game at the moment. One good thing about this is he’ll probably have to start rotating Gundo sand Rodri until he gets more players back so we might see some pace and energy alongside one of them in the coming games.
 
jimharri said:
I'd love to see another club who's had the same number of prolonged injuries to the same amount of key players that we've had in the last 3-4 years. It's farcical at this stage.
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I saw a table a while ago that had the total number of days all players had missed over a number of years in total per club.

We were slightly above average. Arsenal were way in front.
 
Cobwebcat said:
I saw a table a while ago that had the total number of days all players had missed over a number of years in total per club.

We were slightly above average. Arsenal were way in front.
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I find that VERY hard to understand. Silva, KDB, Laporte, Aguero, Sane, Mendyand Vinnie have all missed large chunks of seasons, not just 3 or 4 games. They'd all walk into the vast majority of PL sides.

Okay, maybe not Mendy.
 
jimharri said:
I find that VERY hard to understand. Silva, KDB, Laporte, Aguero, Sane, Mendyand Vinnie have all missed large chunks of seasons, not just 3 or 4 games. They'd all walk into the vast majority of PL sides.

Okay, maybe not Mendy.
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It's because we are City fans and an injury to one of our own is easy to remember. Maybe we have injuries to more important players on average than squad players.

At the moment we really only have three out in Fern Jesus and Mendy. The others have niggles that will keep them out for 7-10 days.

If we look at a site like

www.premierinjuries.com

EPL Injury Table - Premier Injuries

The latest player injuries, suspensions and absences in the English Premier League, from the most comprehensive source of football injury statistics.
www.premierinjuries.com www.premierinjuries.com

We aren't in that bad of a state and quite frequently we have less than the majority of teams. Not so long ago Newcastle were on there at 14 out.
 
i♥city said:
I don't think its the training, its the phsyio's and medical team. Same happened when Pep had his team of physios at Bayern.
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An interview with Holger Broich (professor for sports and performance diagnostics - Bayern's fitness coach) might be interesting in that aspect. It is in German so you have to translate it with google translate:
https://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussba...on-vor-a-d03a9175-2cd0-475a-813d-4a1d490dddff

A small part of it:
You have worked with Pep Guardiola. In his time in Munich muscular injuries especially happened often in the last third of the season. Did you work with the "traffic light system" already then?
Broich: Yes, it already existed then. But every manager has his own philosophy, everybody works differently. I worked with a couple of managers at Bayern: Pep, Ancelotti, Heynckes, Kovac, now Hansi Flick. Each has his own leading and cooperation style. But you have to add that we did not have as much knowledge then like we have now.

(The traffic light system is a monitoring system of specific health and fitness parameters of the players)
 
Cobwebcat said:
It's because we are City fans and an injury to one of our own is easy to remember. Maybe we have injuries to more important players on average than squad players.

At the moment we really only have three out in Fern Jesus and Mendy. The others have niggles that will keep them out for 7-10 days.

If we look at a site like

www.premierinjuries.com

EPL Injury Table - Premier Injuries

The latest player injuries, suspensions and absences in the English Premier League, from the most comprehensive source of football injury statistics.
www.premierinjuries.com www.premierinjuries.com

We aren't in that bad of a state and quite frequently we have less than the majority of teams. Not so long ago Newcastle were on there at 14 out.
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That's my point. I would doubt that Arsenal or Newcastle had injuries to players as important to them as we've had. Certainly not in the numbers we've had.
 
jimharri said:
That's my point. I would doubt that Arsenal or Newcastle had injuries to players as important to them as we've had. Certainly not in the numbers we've had.
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Two things here to take into account.

We have a better quality of player than most and we also have more of that quality. So on average when we get an injury it's likely to be a good player but we can also deal with it better.

Below isn't the article I was referring to before but is still interesting. It's from 2017/18 season..

www.skysports.com

Which Premier League club has suffered most from injuries this season?

Which Premier League club has suffered most from injuries this season? We reveal each clubs total days lost on the treatment table...
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com
 
Cobwebcat said:
Two things here to take into account.

We have a better quality of player than most and we also have more of that quality. So on average when we get an injury it's likely to be a good player but we can also deal with it better.

Below isn't the article I was referring to before but is still interesting. It's from 2017/18 season..

www.skysports.com

Which Premier League club has suffered most from injuries this season?

Which Premier League club has suffered most from injuries this season? We reveal each clubs total days lost on the treatment table...
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com
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Read my previous post again. I'm not comparing the quality of the respective squads. Stevie Wonder can see the gulf in quality. I'm talking about the importance of those injured players to their respective clubs. Anyway, I'm at work so I can't (and won't) argue with you all day. It's obvious we see things differently. Have a good day.
 
jimharri said:
Read my previous post again. I'm not comparing the quality of the respective squads. Stevie Wonder can see the gulf in quality. I'm talking about the importance of those injured players to their respective clubs. Anyway, I'm at work so I can't (and won't) argue with you all day. It's obvious we see things differently. Have a good day.
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I don't agree or disagree I'm just putting the figures out there and people can make their own mind up.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I agree with all of that, mate. We have been very poor and disjointed this season because of the disruption. The problem with the kids, though, is that there is an enormous gap between being a top EDS player and being a competent premier league player. It's taken Foden two years to bridge it, and he's still patchy. Also, Pep is having to give unfit players like Gundogan and Aguero game time just to get them up to speed. It's a tough job for him at the moment but I'm absolutely confident that given time together as a squad we will improve significantly.
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Yeah he can't win to be honest! And it makes sense to try and win the first 4 CL games and then rest players before the Christmas fixtures.

For me, the best squad wins the league this season with it being so close to the last one and the disruption. It's ours for the taking on paper, particularly with Van Dijk injured. Fabinho is quality at CB but it's a big loss for then. However, as ever, the fact we have so many out is largely ignored. If we can keep in touch or better up to Christmas, then get everyone back and fit into the New Year we'll be in great shape to regain it. I think Pep will be wanting it more than ever. 3 in 5 seasons is brilliant. If Liverpool win it then they've matched us under Klopp and also have the CL and Pep will be more than up for that battle.
 
supercity88 said:
Yeah he can't win to be honest! And it makes sense to try and win the first 4 CL games and then rest players before the Christmas fixtures.

For me, the best squad wins the league this season with it being so close to the last one and the disruption. It's ours for the taking on paper, particularly with Van Dijk injured. Fabinho is quality at CB but it's a big loss for then. However, as ever, the fact we have so many out is largely ignored. If we can keep in touch or better up to Christmas, then get everyone back and fit into the New Year we'll be in great shape to regain it. I think Pep will be wanting it more than ever. 3 in 5 seasons is brilliant. If Liverpool win it then they've matched us under Klopp and also have the CL and Pep will be more than up for that battle.
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I still believe we will win it, and whilst the CL is a cup competition, we are good enough to win that too.

The elephant in the room is left back. I think we have to go with Ake for most games.
 
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