Is a Person...

[JoeMercer'sWay]

...who has served his time and not re-offended, a criminal, or an ex-criminal?

I suppose this brings us round to the rehabilitation debate again, but I guess it comes down to crimes which are a conclusive action, a physical event, that begins and ends, and whether the person who commits that should be viewed continually as a criminal because they once committed that action, and haven't since, or whether they should be viewed as someone who committed a crime, has done their time, and should now be viewed as an ex-criminal, and therefore treated as an everyday person?

 

[crizack]

depends on peoples perceptions on criminal behaviour. I was convicted of common assault for punching a guy once. I done my 40 hours community service and that was that. I wouldn't say I'm a criminal. I've seen countless fights in town where no-one gets arrested. Then you have those who commit sexual crimes, rapes, murders etc. The list goes on and the debate will never ever ever end.

 

[Rascal]

Im a criminal.

4 convictions

I should have been hung drawn and quatered

 

[squirtyflower]

Im a criminal.

4 convictions

I should have been hung drawn and quatered

Don't let the Daily Mail readers on the rapist/footballer thread know

they'll want you off the forum mate

 

[Rascal]

Im a criminal.

4 convictions

I should have been hung drawn and quatered

Don't let the Daily Mail readers on the rapist/footballer thread know

they'll want you off the forum mate

I attempted to have a read of that before and found myself wanting to add a 5th conviction to my record

 

[aguero93:20]

Im a criminal.

4 convictions

I should have been hung drawn and quatered

Don't let the Daily Mail readers on the rapist/footballer thread know

they'll want you off the forum mate

Hang on squirty, I've a juvy record longer than my arm and have been in the wrong plenty of times, but rape and murder are a world apart from other crimes.

 

[johnny on the spot]

He's a discharged convict, isn't he? Debt to society paid in full and all that?

 

[squirtyflower]

Im a criminal.

4 convictions

I should have been hung drawn and quatered

Don't let the Daily Mail readers on the rapist/footballer thread know

they'll want you off the forum mate

Hang on squirty, I've a juvy record longer than my arm and have been in the wrong plenty of times, but rape and murder are a world apart from other crimes.

The courts and the justice system, for good or ill, mete out the punishment to the guilty

are you saying they should be punished for evermore, or does it depend on whether you, or someone else, feels the crime is different to another crime?

 

[aguero93:20]

Don't let the Daily Mail readers on the rapist/footballer thread know

they'll want you off the forum mate

Hang on squirty, I've a juvy record longer than my arm and have been in the wrong plenty of times, but rape and murder are a world apart from other crimes.

The courts and the justice system, for good or ill, mete out the punishment to the guilty

are you saying they should be punished for evermore, or does it depend on whether you, or someone else, feels the crime is different to another crime?

They don't receive long enough sentences tbh which doesn't help, but victims of rape and murder have to live with the consequences of the crime for the rest of their lives, the offender shouldn't be able to walk away with a clean slate.

 

[squirtyflower]

Hang on squirty, I've a juvy record longer than my arm and have been in the wrong plenty of times, but rape and murder are a world apart from other crimes.

The courts and the justice system, for good or ill, mete out the punishment to the guilty

are you saying they should be punished for evermore, or does it depend on whether you, or someone else, feels the crime is different to another crime?

They don't receive long enough sentences tbh which doesn't help, but victims of rape and murder have to live with the consequences of the crime for the rest of their lives, the offender shouldn't be able to walk away with a clean slate.

so in your world you decide the tariffs for punishment and they should never be allowed to pay their debt and carry on with their lives

seems fair doesn't it