Is it Labour's time?

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Is that political terminology for a choc ice?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Just seen someone on Twitter say that the Corbynites would rather have a Conservative government than a Labour one under Starmer.

I thought that was somewhat hyperbolic but fear it wasn't.

Cut their noses off, is that the expression?

I understand that there’s bad blood but to carry it on so long just seems like ‘Slapped arse’ to me.

As they say, nothing as strange as folk.

 

[urban genie]

If labour cannot win in 2024 then they truly would be terrible because unlike 2019 there is no populust thubthumping for the tories just 5 more years of a shitshow

Saying that kinnock had better prospects than this in 87 and then lost


But cannot see anything but a labour majority next GE

 

[HolisticJim]

I struggle to care. They're all in it for themselves and not much would change if we needed up with labour.

That said, I've never seen the country in a bigger mess than it is right now.

 

[Cricket Blue]

No
I haven't voted for years and never will again
The country is fucked beyond repair.
The best days are gone

 

[Phil1]

No
I haven't voted for years and never will again
The country is fucked beyond repair.
The best days are gone

Airports that way >>>

 

[robbieh]

Just seen someone on Twitter say that the Corbynites would rather have a Conservative government than a Labour one under Starmer.

I thought that was somewhat hyperbolic but fear it wasn't.

I have a Trotskyist friend who preferred to have a Tory government rather than Corbyn!

 

[mickster2]

Rascal is to the left of Corbyn-politick, so he very much is part of why the Tories get in as he believes that current Labour are just as bad, yet the rest of us know that they would be infinitely less damaging, without being anywhere near perfect.

No I do get that about Rascal. He isn't the problem, because his views will never be represented in a govt of any colour, red or blue. His comfortable place is as a perennial outsider, shouting from the distant margins for a (presumably communist) revolution that will never come, as though it's still the 1950's.

The reason we've had a tory govt for 12 years and counting like I said is because labour have abandoned their industrial w/c roots (whats left of them) and stopped pitching for the centre ground. There's not enough industrial w/c left to get them elected, and they've fallen for the identity politics of the m/c Southern chattering classes rather than focussing on the new 'underclasses' working shit jobs on zero hours contracts in call centres & delievring for Amazon. The latter should be their natural constituency, but they've largely abandoned them as they hold 'deplorable' views on identity, race, immigration etc.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

No
I haven't voted for years and never will again
The country is fucked beyond repair.
The best days are gone

hmmm same feelings here, except the best days have gone bit. But I will be voting for Labour just because its actually becoming dangerous with the conservatives in charge, and to shut my wife up :)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

No I do get that about Rascal. He isn't the problem, because his views will never be represented in a govt of any colour, red or blue. His comfortable place is as a perennial outsider, shouting from the distant margins for a (presumably communist) revolution that will never come, as though it's still the 1950's.

The reason we've had a tory govt for 12 years and counting like I said is because labour have abandoned their industrial w/c roots (whats left of them) and stopped pitching for the centre ground. There's not enough industrial w/c left to get them elected, and they've fallen for the identity politics of the m/c Southern chattering classes rather than focussing on the new 'underclasses' working shit jobs on zero hours contracts in call centres & delievring for Amazon. The latter should be their natural constituency, but they've largely abandoned them as they hold 'deplorable' views on identity, race, immigration etc.

Nah, it’s because radical blue voters always vote blue, whoever their leader is.

Red voters do this much less.