Is it time to panic yet?

No. It's time to panic if, come next season, we don't have new players and are still playing like that. As long as we get top 4 this season I'm willing to keep giving Pep time.

No way we'll finish top 4.

Of course it's time to panic. Especially when the manager is sat on tv saying. I'd like to know also. He hasn't a scooby

That is very worrying. It smacks of a man who is abrogating responsibility.
There is something he could do to help the situation and it's literally staring him in the face but he's too proud to do it.
 
We have won once away there in living memory (or at least mine), it has been poor since Swansea away, teams realised how to play us after 5 or 6 games.

It's Arsenal under Wenger. Don't underestimate just how much we can bottle it.
 
Bit of time to reflect and it's hard to take anything positive out of that. We dominated that first half and if Silva or Sterling takes their chances then it's a very different game. However, this feels like the same thing we are saying over and over again, it's like they are told not to shoot when near the goal. It pains me to say it, but I think this is silvas last season. He is wonderful when we are playing well and winning, but for me he should be scoring so many more and it's hurting us big time. KDB is an absolute luxury and for me crumbled in that game, needs to earn his crust more when things aren't going well.

Everyone will state the goalie and back 4 which is the obvious problems, but for me it's a problem throughout the team. Chelsea, Everton home, middlesborough, Everton away all lost / drawn partly due to our inability to take chances.

Worryingly we didn't create many chances today. A couple in the first half but in the second we were dire.
 
So stop acting like after today you are suddenly anti-Pep. You've been anti-Pep since at least the Spurs game and possibly before.

I'm not suddenly anti-Pep. "I want Pep gone now" that means I want him to leave, pronto. i was at the West Ham game last week and yes it was great to see us win in that way, but even then it was against a hapless West Ham team who really were terrible and just papered over some massive cracks. I love city, obsessed for 30 years, but this is the worst I've known it, because even when we were shit and in division 2 at least we had players who gave a shit and put a shift in - and when they didn't, who got the blame? The manager did and this should be no different just because we've got "the best manager in the world".
 
If we lose to Spurs, then it will be time to start thinking about maybe panicking.

Don't understand your post. Spurs are a top team who are in great form. Losing to them would be expected given our brittleness. It's getting shafted by the likes of Everton and Leicester that's the real cause for concern.
 
I'm not suddenly anti-Pep. "I want Pep gone now" that means I want him to leave, pronto. i was at the West Ham game last week and yes it was great to see us win in that way, but even then it was against a hapless West Ham team who really were terrible and just papered over some massive cracks. I love city, obsessed for 30 years, but this is the worst I've known it, because even when we were shit and in division 2 at least we had players who gave a shit and put a shift in - and when they didn't, who got the blame? The manager did and this should be no different just because we've got "the best manager in the world".

Strawman, nobody here is using that "best manager in the world" crack.

Whether you want him gone pronto or not is frankly irrelevant. He's not going anywhere. If he wants to stay, he'll be staying.

And you know what? He deserves to stay. It's been half a season so far and even if this one does end with nothing then he deserves a chance in the Summer to build the team the way he wants.
 
Nope, but it's time for change. Over playing the ball to keeper kills all momentum. It's to easy an option and more often than not it's the cheap pass.
It's all well and good keeping possession alive but use it with effect not affect.
 

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