Is it time to unmask the muslim woman?

King Geedorah said:
To use a typically right wing defence to defend a left wing idea. How can you go about rolling back civil liberties that soldiers died fighting to save? The problem is you, not muslims.
Are civil liberties a left-wing idea? I don't consider ElanJo to be left-wing but I'll happily stand with him on civil liberties and freedom.
 
Skashion said:
King Geedorah said:
To use a typically right wing defence to defend a left wing idea. How can you go about rolling back civil liberties that soldiers died fighting to save? The problem is you, not muslims.
Are civil liberties a left-wing idea? I don't consider ElanJo to be left-wing but I'll happily stand with him on civil liberties and freedom.

Liberal that should read. Poor on my part.
 
rickmcfc said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
No point, people could use their hands to cover their faces. I think babies hands should be cut off to avoid this problem.

Incidentally, how much of the crime in this country is committed by Muslim women with their faces covered? 90%? 10% 0.0001%?


Do you honestly not think thats its a security issue then?

Do you not feel intimidated by them?

Do you not want to know who/what is in the same place as you?

Do you not feel that it is creating devide in the communty?

Do you want a possible repeat of the riots that occured throughout the North West due to communities divided?

Do you want "No Go" arreas in parts of our region

Do you feel its right someone wearing a hoody or motorcylce helmet gets refused entry to certain areas as their face cant be recognised for security issues (rightly so aswell) Yet a muslim women can wear a non religous Burka covering her body from head to toe? that is wrong, how can you possibly defend that?
DO YOU???

No it isn't a security issue.

No I do not feel intimidated by them. I've been beaten up by white males before. I've been robbed by white males too. Funnily enough though even a soft arse like me isn't scared of a woman with her face covered. I'm more intimidated by fat common gobby women on the bus as opposed to the meek and covered Muslim ones to be totally honest.

It only causes a divide because people like you want to strip human rights from anyone who doesn't adhere to your skewed and bitter world view.

I believe in total freedom for everyone.

You basically want our Government to act like the Taliban which is ironic as I'd imagine you hate the taliban and feel the war is justified.

Don't get me wrong, I worry about crime and being a victim of it but never at the hands of a Muslim woman, never.
 
I'd love to see some statistics of alcohol related violence/crime compared to burkha related violence/crime. It would certainly put the cat among the pigeons.
 
This could be a silly question, but how does it work for I.D with Burkas? Thinking driving licence, young person's railcards etc.
 
rickmcfc said:
Damocles - I'm not saying your wrong, nor am I saying your right. But I have heard several interviews with Muslim people on tv stating that the burka, is 100% nothing to to with religion. I'm not sure where you have that paragraph from, but surely a devoted Muslim would know right? Also it comes down to a simple question. Is he burka a security issue in this country? And the answer is, yes possibly. There could literally be anyone under there the head gear and for the safety of Britain we have the right to know. Whilst a person wearing a motorcycle helmet has to take it off when entering a public place for the main reasons of safety and to not alarm the public, why do some, and I state some I think that they should had a different rule? Different rules will create a divide in the community, do you think that is a good thing? I certain don't and this could possibly lead to the horrible scenes that we saw in the riots of mainly Oldham, Rochdale, Burnley and Bolton.

Those quotations are verses from the Koran. And no, just like all Christians can't agree on the exact interpretation of the Bible (which leads to segregation like Catholic/Protestant), Muslims also segregate in Sunni and Shiite. So no one Muslim 'knows' better than any other.

As I mentioned, you don't take off your motorbike helmet in a public place, you take it off when you enter a private institution who has rules against it. It is perfectly acceptable to walk around the streets in a motorbike helmet.

Will you also ban halloween masks to protect the safety of Britain?

You know, I almost forgot I was talking to a BNP member there, until the whole race riot issue came into it, which had exactly zero to do with burqas
 
rickmcfc said:
Skashion said:
How is it a matter of national security? You haven't explained that at all. I don't recall any of the 7/7 terrorists wearing burkas.


So just because the horrible events of 7/7 were not carried out by terrorist wearing burkas, how does that mean than future possible attacks wont be carried out by men/women/anyone hiding in them? Oh, look back at a previous page, there is a few crimes commited by people wearing burkas.
Well surely anything which can change/hide they way you look should be considered a matter of national security?

Wigs, Masks, Sunglasses, Hair Colouring etc...

In fact, we should all probably just wear uniforms, have the same haircut and be identified by number rather than name. Definitely make it safer.
 
rickmcfc said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
No point, people could use their hands to cover their faces. I think babies hands should be cut off to avoid this problem.

Incidentally, how much of the crime in this country is committed by Muslim women with their faces covered? 90%? 10% 0.0001%?


Do you honestly not think thats its a security issue then?
No

Do you not feel intimidated by them?
Lol, I often find myself intimidated by small, shy women, or not.
Do you not want to know who/what is in the same place as you?
Couldn't really care less.

Do you not feel that it is creating devide in the communty?

No

Do you want a possible repeat of the riots that occured throughout the North West due to communities divided?

Don't see how that's relevant but clearly no

Do you want "No Go" arreas in parts of our region

Don't see how that's relevant but clearly no

Do you feel its right someone wearing a hoody or motorcylce helmet gets refused entry to certain areas as their face cant be recognised for security issues (rightly so aswell) Yet a muslim women can wear a non religous Burka covering her body from head to toe? that is wrong, how can you possibly defend that?

Not a goverment issue.
DO YOU???
 
King Geedorah said:
I'd love to see some statistics of alcohol related violence/crime compared to burkha related violence/crime. It would certainly put the cat among the pigeons.

It certainly would but it'll never happen.

I don't want to oppress or suppress anybody of any faith, race or gender. The irony for me is that on the one hand we're fighting a supposed oppressive regime in the Taliban yet on the other hand the most fervent anti Muslim/Taliban people wish to introduce oppressive and supposed Taliban esque rules and regulations regarding what people can and can not do.

It's like the BNP always bleating on about 'British' yet get a camera out and they'll all seig heil and start acting 'German'. Bit weird but then I'd never expect consistency, logic or intelligence from the BNP or it's followers.

The simple truth is that all people are different. Some Muslims are fucking arseholes but it's not because they're a Muslim, it's because they are an arsehole. Just as some white people are scum, doesn't mean we all are. Nor are all Catholics paedos or all men rapists.<br /><br />-- Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:20 pm --<br /><br />
ono said:
rickmcfc said:
So just because the horrible events of 7/7 were not carried out by terrorist wearing burkas, how does that mean than future possible attacks wont be carried out by men/women/anyone hiding in them? Oh, look back at a previous page, there is a few crimes commited by people wearing burkas.
Well surely anything which can change/hide they way you look should be considered a matter of national security?

Wigs, Masks, Sunglasses, Hair Colouring etc...

In fact, we should all probably just wear uniforms, have the same haircut and be identified by number rather than name. Definitely make it safer.

Yet the irony is that we hate the Taliban for.....wanting to oppress people in exactly the same manner.
 

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