Is it time to unmask the muslim woman?

[TheMightyQuinn]

The whole ethos of these items of clothing is the degradation of women and to highlight their submissive position within society.

Our culture denotes equality, therefore any woman who feels the need to condone that should, quite frankly, fuck off to a society where it is deemed acceptable.

I don't see the difference between the Taliban forcing women to cover up and us forcing them to remove their clothes?

Both are exactly the same principles.

English soldiers are dying everyday just so that people over here can whinge and try to enforce their own Taliban esque laws on the people.

 

[rickmcfc]

The whole ethos of these items of clothing is the degradation of women and to highlight their submissive position within society.

Our culture denotes equality, therefore any woman who feels the need to condone that should, quite frankly, fuck off to a society where it is deemed acceptable.

My gosh boy, you cant say things like that in the multicultural society called england, you may offend the smaller proportion asian minority, remember we cant say things like this, them will call us all racists and that we are effecting their "human rights". Well fucking tough, you lost your human rights when you started blowing innocent members of society up. If it means that the majority of people in this country feeler safer with women/or whatever they might be under there not wearing this non religous head gear, then tough, get it off (the burka that is)!!<br /><br />-- Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:13 pm --<br /><br />

The whole ethos of these items of clothing is the degradation of women and to highlight their submissive position within society.

Our culture denotes equality, therefore any woman who feels the need to condone that should, quite frankly, fuck off to a society where it is deemed acceptable.

I don't see the difference between the Taliban forcing women to cover up and us forcing them to remove their clothes?

Both are exactly the same principles.

English soldiers are dying everyday just so that people over here can whinge and try to enforce their own Taliban esque laws on the people.

Because we are in england, we are not the Taliban ffs! If they DO FORCE THEM TO COVER UP, even more of a reason for us to force them NOT TO!!!

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

The whole ethos of these items of clothing is the degradation of women and to highlight their submissive position within society.

Our culture denotes equality, therefore any woman who feels the need to condone that should, quite frankly, fuck off to a society where it is deemed acceptable.

My gosh boy, you cant say things like that in the multicultural society called england, you may offend the smaller proportion asian minority, remember we cant say things like this, them will call us all racists and that we are effecting their "human rights". Well fucking tough, you lost your human rights when you started blowing innocent members of society up. If it means that the majority of people in this country feeler safer with women/or whatever they might be under there not wearing this non religous head gear, then tough, get it off (the burka that is)!!

What if Muslim women said to you that as white male you've lost all your rights due to the fact that most peado's are white males? Or if Jews decided that all white men are potential Hitler's and therefore were to be imprisoned 'just in case'.

How about judging people as individuals instead of gender/race etc?

 

[BTH]

The whole ethos of these items of clothing is the degradation of women and to highlight their submissive position within society.

Our culture denotes equality, therefore any woman who feels the need to condone that should, quite frankly, fuck off to a society where it is deemed acceptable.

I don't see the difference between the Taliban forcing women to cover up and us forcing them to remove their clothes?

Both are exactly the same principles.

English soldiers are dying everyday just so that people over here can whinge and try to enforce their own Taliban esque laws on the people.

I think you mean 'British,' as in the British Army.

 

[Damocles]

My gosh boy, you cant say things like that in the multicultural society called england, you may offend the smaller proportion asian minority, remember we cant say things like this, them will call us all racists and that we are effecting their "human rights". Well fucking tough, you lost your human rights when you started blowing innocent members of society up. If it means that the majority of people in this country feeler safer with women/or whatever they might be under there not wearing this non religous head gear, then tough, get it off (the burka that is)!!

What if Muslim women said to you that as white male you've lost all your rights due to the fact that most peado's are white males? Or if Jews decided that all white men are potential Hitler's and therefore were to be imprisoned 'just in case'.

How about judging people as individuals instead of gender/race etc?

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

The whole ethos of these items of clothing is the degradation of women and to highlight their submissive position within society.

Our culture denotes equality, therefore any woman who feels the need to condone that should, quite frankly, fuck off to a society where it is deemed acceptable.

My gosh boy, you cant say things like that in the multicultural society called england, you may offend the smaller proportion asian minority, remember we cant say things like this, them will call us all racists and that we are effecting their "human rights". Well fucking tough, you lost your human rights when you started blowing innocent members of society up. If it means that the majority of people in this country feeler safer with women/or whatever they might be under there not wearing this non religous head gear, then tough, get it off (the burka that is)!!

-- Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:13 pm --

I don't see the difference between the Taliban forcing women to cover up and us forcing them to remove their clothes?

Both are exactly the same principles.

English soldiers are dying everyday just so that people over here can whinge and try to enforce their own Taliban esque laws on the people.

Because we are in england, we are not the Taliban ffs! If they DO FORCE THEM TO COVER UP, even more of a reason for us to force them NOT TO!!!

No, it makes us as bad as them and it's as simple as that. The fact you can't grasp this just goes to show where you're at with your beliefs.

-- Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:16 pm --

I don't see the difference between the Taliban forcing women to cover up and us forcing them to remove their clothes?

Both are exactly the same principles.

English soldiers are dying everyday just so that people over here can whinge and try to enforce their own Taliban esque laws on the people.

I think you mean 'British,' as in the British Army.

True but I'd assumed Rick to be one of those people who hates the Scottish, Welsh and Irish. He seems to hate everyone else.<br /><br />-- Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:18 pm --<br /><br />

What if Muslim women said to you that as white male you've lost all your rights due to the fact that most peado's are white males? Or if Jews decided that all white men are potential Hitler's and therefore were to be imprisoned 'just in case'.

How about judging people as individuals instead of gender/race etc?

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

What can I say? I'm a radical, I don't believe Muslim women are out to kill me and I'm not even scared of them! I'm obviously a bit wrong in the head.

I think we should kill all children, you know, just in case one grows up to kill or do something bad.

 

[Televators]

I don't see the difference between the Taliban forcing women to cover up and us forcing them to remove their clothes?

Both are exactly the same principles.

English soldiers are dying everyday just so that people over here can whinge and try to enforce their own Taliban esque laws on the people.

I find your parallels a little wonky. I can't compare equality with not accepting the subjugation of women.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

I don't see the difference between the Taliban forcing women to cover up and us forcing them to remove their clothes?

Both are exactly the same principles.

English soldiers are dying everyday just so that people over here can whinge and try to enforce their own Taliban esque laws on the people.

I find your parallels a little wonky. I can't compare equality with not accepting the subjugation of women.

How is us forcing Muslim women NOT TO WEAR something any better than the Taliban forcing women TO WEAR the exact same item?

How about we let the women choose themselves?

Just because The Taliban are twats doesn't mean we should lower ourselves to their level.

Simple as that, anyone who doesn't get this is either in denial or thick.

 

[rickmcfc]

Firstly, I was talking about the fact that if that suicide bomber wasn't wearing a burqa, the incident would have still happened.

Secondly, you've just given the game away. Like all other BNP members I've come across, especially the big "I'm a hardman" ones, when it comes down to it, you're just a coward. This isn't about patriotism, or social norms or British culture, or any of the other shit that you guys use to justify it, it comes down to the fact that you're scared of life. You're scared of highly religious, docile women may attack you. You're scared that people who talk in other languages around you, do it because you are there. You're scared that a new culture will come into play and you'll be swept aside as a useless member of society. You're scared of people moving into your area because your happy life will change and these people will just bring bad influences. You want life to stop, to stand still whilst you live it out.

Sorry, your first point i understand, i misunderstood you, but your second point is crazy. Scare of "docile women who may attack me". Well no shit sherlock, im not sure about you but im not for dying, and certainly not at the will of some scum terrorist willing to kill large groups of people, of course im fucking scared. Ive never ever portrayed myself as a "big hardman image" im nothing of the sort (although i am partial to the odd pie) Im not a coward, im one of the ones willing to stand up and not be defeated, unlike you who will lie down and allow this to happen. yes i do find it a little scary when people who can talk perfect english, choose not to because i dont understand their language and do it on purpose to make me feel threatened. Im not scared than a new culture will come into play, as long as we can live side by side together and agree on certain issues. Im not scared of these people moving next door on to my area. My next door neighboors are indian, lovely people and their kids are always playing football at the front and in our garden - ive even turned one into a city fan and now he cheers on the blues, the other im having a little more difficulty with though!!!. i have played cricket with them, they are just normal asian people, they are like you and me, but from a different country (the children were born here and class themselves as english which is great) I am also not a member of the BNP and never will be, i just agree on a lot of their polocies. i hated cameron and clegg but since they got elected (well sort of) i now agree with a lot of their polocies and i think they are making a good start to the new Government - so dont ever call me a member of the BNP, as im not, ok?

 

[Televators]

How is us forcing Muslim women NOT TO WEAR something any better than the Taliban forcing women TO WEAR the exact same item?

How about we let the women choose themselves?

Just because The Taliban are twats doesn't mean we should lower ourselves to their level.

Simple as that, anyone who doesn't get this is either in denial or thick.

No sweetie, not agreeing with YOU does not make people either in denial or thick.

I believe it is different because of the principle behind it. We as a society have changed the way we think about such matters. Women are not considered 2nd class citizens, nor do we expect them to behave as though they are.

If they want to wear these damn thing in their own houses then whoopie do, that's fine with me. Bringing it out on to the streets, displaying such submissive behaviour, well no, I don't think that's on, whether they want to or not.