Is it time to unmask the muslim woman?

[without a dream]

What are people scared of though? To me there doesn't seem to be a real terrorist threat, we're constantly told how easy it is to get hold of guns, yet the thought of getting a gun hasn't occurred to extremists in our country, I find that incredibly hard to believe.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

How is us forcing Muslim women NOT TO WEAR something any better than the Taliban forcing women TO WEAR the exact same item?

How about we let the women choose themselves?

Just because The Taliban are twats doesn't mean we should lower ourselves to their level.

Simple as that, anyone who doesn't get this is either in denial or thick.

No sweetie, not agreeing with YOU does not make people either in denial or thick.

I believe it is different because of the principle behind it. We as a society have changed the way we think about such matters. Women are not considered 2nd class citizens, nor do we expect them to behave as though they are.

If they want to wear these damn thing in their own houses then whoopie do, that's fine with me. Bringing it out on to the streets, displaying such submissive behaviour, well no, I don't think that's on, whether they want to or not.

Yeah women are totally equal over here aren't they? Equal pay to men, equal opportunities and rights etc?

I'm through with this thread.

If people want to live in fear from innocent women in religious clothing then so be it, I've bigger fish to fry than to waste my time on here discussing this Daily Mail esque fantasy stuff.

All you need is love.

Krishna.

X

 

[rickmcfc]

My gosh boy, you cant say things like that in the multicultural society called england, you may offend the smaller proportion asian minority, remember we cant say things like this, them will call us all racists and that we are effecting their "human rights". Well fucking tough, you lost your human rights when you started blowing innocent members of society up. If it means that the majority of people in this country feeler safer with women/or whatever they might be under there not wearing this non religous head gear, then tough, get it off (the burka that is)!!

What if Muslim women said to you that as white male you've lost all your rights due to the fact that most peado's are white males? Or if Jews decided that all white men are potential Hitler's and therefore were to be imprisoned 'just in case'.

How about judging people as individuals instead of gender/race etc?

We have lost certain rights, you can no longer film your child at a sports day, if an innocent kid falls in the road, if you went and picked it up, people would think " oh who is he, he does not know that child" - therefor possibly thinking you were a sick paedo. And imprisoning all white men just incase they are hilters, what fucking planet are you on, im saying they should remove their headgear so their faces can be seen, i would hardly put that on par with being sent to prison. And your last point "How about judging people as individuals instead of gender/race etc" that is what im doing, asins should not be allowed to wear headgear, chavs should not be allowed to have their faces covered up, nmotorcyclists should remocve their helmets when in a public place. What is so hard to fathom out? Im not racist, just want to feel safe waling the streets of Britain.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

What if Muslim women said to you that as white male you've lost all your rights due to the fact that most peado's are white males? Or if Jews decided that all white men are potential Hitler's and therefore were to be imprisoned 'just in case'.

How about judging people as individuals instead of gender/race etc?

We have lost certain rights, you can no longer film your child at a sports day, if an innocent kid falls in the road, if you went and picked it up, people would think " oh who is he, he does not know that child" - therefor possibly thinking you were a sick paedo. And imprisoning all white men just incase they are hilters, what fucking planet are you on, im saying they should remove their headgear so their faces can be seen, i would hardly put that on par with being sent to prison. And your last point "How about judging people as individuals instead of gender/race etc" that is what im doing, asins should not be allowed to wear headgear, chavs should not be allowed to have their faces covered up, nmotorcyclists should remocve their helmets when in a public place. What is so hard to fathom out? Im not racist, just want to feel safe waling the streets of Britain.

I'm bowing out of this thread. Only so many ways I can say the same thing.

It's a shame you choose to live in hate and fear mate it really is.

All you need is love.

Krishna

 

[rickmcfc]

We have lost certain rights, you can no longer film your child at a sports day, if an innocent kid falls in the road, if you went and picked it up, people would think " oh who is he, he does not know that child" - therefor possibly thinking you were a sick paedo. And imprisoning all white men just incase they are hilters, what fucking planet are you on, im saying they should remove their headgear so their faces can be seen, i would hardly put that on par with being sent to prison. And your last point "How about judging people as individuals instead of gender/race etc" that is what im doing, asins should not be allowed to wear headgear, chavs should not be allowed to have their faces covered up, nmotorcyclists should remocve their helmets when in a public place. What is so hard to fathom out? Im not racist, just want to feel safe waling the streets of Britain.

I'm bowing out of this thread. Only so many ways I can say the same thing.

It's a shame you choose to live in hate and fear mate it really is.

All you need is love.

Krishna

No, your bowing out because you know that i have pinned you right in a corner and where you dont like. My above paragraph is spot on, and you know it, by bowing out is "the cowards way" (just like you not facing up to the problems stated earlier and pretending they dont exist) i dont choose to live my life this way, a certain religion made me feel this way when brainwashing people into killing thousands, that is why im slightly sceptical of them, do you understand? no, you probably wouldnt as your not scared of anything are you, except the truth.

 

[Damocles]

Sorry, your first point i understand, i misunderstood you, but your second point is crazy. Scare of "docile women who may attack me". Well no shit sherlock, im not sure about you but im not for dying, and certainly not at the will of some scum terrorist willing to kill large groups of people, of course im fucking scared. Ive never ever portrayed myself as a "big hardman image" im nothing of the sort (although i am partial to the odd pie) Im not a coward, im one of the ones willing to stand up and not be defeated, unlike you who will lie down and allow this to happen. yes i do find it a little scary when people who can talk perfect english, choose not to because i dont understand their language and do it on purpose to make me feel threatened. Im not scared than a new culture will come into play, as long as we can live side by side together and agree on certain issues. Im not scared of these people moving next door on to my area. My next door neighboors are indian, lovely people and their kids are always playing football at the front and in our garden - ive even turned one into a city fan and now he cheers on the blues, the other im having a little more difficulty with though!!!. i have played cricket with them, they are just normal asian people, they are like you and me, but from a different country (the children were born here and class themselves as english which is great) I am also not a member of the BNP and never will be, i just agree on a lot of their polocies. i hated cameron and clegg but since they got elected (well sort of) i now agree with a lot of their polocies and i think they are making a good start to the new Government - so dont ever call me a member of the BNP, as im not, ok?

Pretty sure you started a thread discussing going to a BNP meetup in Wigan with a few others on here, apologies if I have the wrong poster.

Anyway, as TMQ so eloquently put: You live a life or fear and mistrust, and that's solely down to your personal choice. You can choose to live a life of love and peace if you wanted to. Perhaps by not automatically assuming that foreigners are trying to threaten you by speaking their native tongue could be a start?

 

[Televators]

Yeah women are totally equal over here aren't they? Equal pay to men, equal opportunities and rights etc?

I'm through with this thread.

If people want to live in fear from innocent women in religious clothing then so be it, I've bigger fish to fry than to waste my time on here discussing this Daily Mail esque fantasy stuff.

All you need is love.

Krishna.

X

Generally yeah they are. And those that aren't, once they realise, and challenge, are winning their cases of discrimination. So I don't really get your point.

Hmmmm, is this yours that I just found on the floor Bambi??

 

[sweep]

If we ban all these terrorists running around Britain from covering their faces and their bombs with these muslim dresses won't they just use hoodies and rucksacks instead? I know these people aren't that bright so will probably just stick to their traditional terrorist disguise and I don't want to give them ideas, just putting it out there.

Mods feel free to delete if you feel this post threatens national security.

These people arent bright? hmmm as bright as your post might sound!

NULL!

Jesus! It was a piss take, I thought it was fairly obvious but I guess not, so for the record, I don't think it's a traditional terrorist disguise, I don't think they're all running around with bombs hidden under them, I don't feel in any way threatened by them and I don't think they should be banned. I do think that any business should be able to refuse entry to anyone if they don't uncover their face but I believe that to be the case already anyway.

 

[rickmcfc]

DAMOCLES - I have not ever wished to go to, nor have said i am going to go to a BNP meet. I just wouldnt as i dont believe enought of what they say to even think of being there. Also some of the stuff Nick Griffin has come out with ( all of it in his earlier years) is disgusting. How can someone deny the Holocaust ffs, its beyond me. All i have said is that i agree on SOME of their principles, just like i agree on SOME of Camerons and Cleggs. If you are so sure then could you please find this thread as i did not say those things, you may have the wrong user but several other members dislike me for the same reason, they think i am a BNP member ans i can confirm now, i am not and couldnt due to job reasons - this is all i can say on this matter. As regards to the language situation. I speak to the group of asians concerned several times a week on the phone, when i enter the premises they are talking in English, then spot me and change instantly. If this happened in a turkish kebab house, an indian curry house or even a pub in wales, then i would feel intimidated as it just isnt a nice scenario to be in.

 

[crizack]

The veil is just as intimidating as a balaclava. I think the idea of a multicultural society helps us understand more about other cultures an thus enhances our knowledge of the world. But this doesn't mean we British citizens HAVE to accept others cultures or beliefs. We do so because we are just civilised. The women felt their religion was not respected but surely they themselves could of respected the drivers wishes aswell. They CAN choose to de-robe and unlike many muslim countries, willow be persecuted. By not accepting the drivers concerns, they are both hypocritical. Then to say "it was probably a racist comment" makes my blood boil. The race card gets used too much for too little. Surely we as a country have helped their families settle in a much better country than their grandfathers so if a British person has an issue with them or their beliefs, they should, out if common courtesy, acknowledge this and respect it just as we would respect them.

Ps. It isn't racist, if they didn't have veils, they would of got on.