Is it true Aguero can't be banned? (Update P43)

[Marvin]

Re: Is it true Aguero can't be banned?

My own opinion is that if someone does something that's premeditated and dangerous then it should be punished, regardless of this nonsense about whether the referee "saw" it or not.

But the current situation does seem to be a stick to beat us with rather than applied consistently. So Mario got punished for his stamp on Parker but why did Huth not get retrospectively punished for his elbow on the same player in the final 2 seasons ago or Whelan earlier this season? The referee couldn't have "seen" that otherwise he'd have sent him off.

So let's take the subjectivity out of it and apply it objectively then no one can have any complaint.

It's trial by media at the moment. I don't think many fans understand the system or trust it

Do the FA Disciplinary panel view video footage of all games, or just those that the media highlight - I suspect the latter in which case it's not a fair system.

Players like Luiz and Adam are well known for their sly digs and fouls. It's impossible for refs to spot these challenges and they are getting away with no punishment

 

[Chris in London]

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Funny how the morality squad are quick to slaughter one of their own players but then rip into people who question such matters as poor tactics and form.

Not saying what Kun did was right, but only City fans could slag off their own.

I don't think there are too many "slagging him off", but there is a sensible understanding that what he did was wrong and that, in all likelihood, he'll be punished for it, which is probably the right call by the FA.

Or at least, would be the right call if retrospective sanctions were consistently applied wherever two footed tackles which the referee had not dealt with during the game had taken place, and not just those which the media decided to highlight

 

[Matty]

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From an FA handbook

When is The FA prevented from taking action?

FIFA guidelines aimed at avoiding the “re-refereeing” of matches generally prevent The FA from taking disciplinary action on incidents which are seen and dealt with at the time by the match officials (this includes taking no action). As a general rule, if the match officials see an incident and have jurisdiction to take action, The FA cannot act retrospectively.

For instance, these guidelines prevent The FA from upgrading/downgrading yellow and red cards based on retrospective advice provided by the match referee.

Unless they want to, in which case the above can be ignored and the FA can do whatever they want, for proof see Ben Thatcher.

 

[daztrueblue91]

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Luiz has form for throwing elbows and shoulder charging people off the ball. It has also been highlighted it the last couple of weeks but nothing ever gets done about that. I think it was the Brentford v Chelsea match where he properly took out their player.

You just have to look at Kuns face to see the anger. His head certainly went and in all honestly he deserves a ban.

 

[Matty]

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Funny how the morality squad are quick to slaughter one of their own players but then rip into people who question such matters as poor tactics and form.

Not saying what Kun did was right, but only City fans could slag off their own.

I don't think there are too many "slagging him off", but there is a sensible understanding that what he did was wrong and that, in all likelihood, he'll be punished for it, which is probably the right call by the FA.

Or at least, would be the right call if retrospective sanctions were consistently applied wherever two footed tackles which the referee had not dealt with during the game had taken place, and not just those which the media decided to highlight

True, I've had a rant about that in the "Trial by Media" thread.

 

[Lucky Toma]

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My take on it is that Sergio is extremely lucky that Luiz tumbles because from the second they bounce off each other his intention is to go in two footed.

The fact that he connects with the shithouse's arse offers a glimpse of leniency (though doubtful) that wouldn't be present if Luiz had remained on his feet and stretched for the ball (as I believe Sergio is thinking will be the case). Then an ankle break or ligament damage would be a genuine possibility.

No doubt that this is out of character for Kun but that's meagre excuse for his action.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

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From an FA handbook

When is The FA prevented from taking action?

FIFA guidelines aimed at avoiding the “re-refereeing” of matches generally prevent The FA from taking disciplinary action on incidents which are seen and dealt with at the time by the match officials (this includes taking no action). As a general rule, if the match officials see an incident and have jurisdiction to take action, The FA cannot act retrospectively.

For instance, these guidelines prevent The FA from upgrading/downgrading yellow and red cards based on retrospective advice provided by the match referee.

Unless they want to, in which case the above can be ignored and the FA can do whatever they want, for proof see Ben Thatcher.

Unless ben thatcher try to kill someone

 

[George Hannah]

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I'd rather get studs in the arse than on the back of the heel, like he received from Torres.

Obviously it's a red card and an uncharacteristic act by Kun but purely from a pain perspective I'd rather get it in the arse :)

I thought it was Ramires (Brazilian brotherhood)

 

[sergiokun]

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Sergio will get banned for 3 games for this i hope he doesn't do this again because it's wrong

 

[Matty]

Re: Is it true Aguero can't be banned?

From an FA handbook

When is The FA prevented from taking action?

FIFA guidelines aimed at avoiding the “re-refereeing” of matches generally prevent The FA from taking disciplinary action on incidents which are seen and dealt with at the time by the match officials (this includes taking no action). As a general rule, if the match officials see an incident and have jurisdiction to take action, The FA cannot act retrospectively.

For instance, these guidelines prevent The FA from upgrading/downgrading yellow and red cards based on retrospective advice provided by the match referee.

Unless they want to, in which case the above can be ignored and the FA can do whatever they want, for proof see Ben Thatcher.

Unless ben thatcher try to kill someone

Irrelevant.

He committed a foul, the referee saw it, gave the freekick, and booked Thatcher. Under the rules stated above the FA CANNOT do anythign about it. However they did, they retrospectively gave him a red card and an 8 game ban! I'm not saying he didn't deserve it, he did, it was a shocking elbow, but the FA proved in retrospectively banning Thatcher that, if they wanted to, they can ignore all these "the ref saw it, it's out of our hands" bullshit and actually do something about it.